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New Learner

Discussion in 'New Riders and Riding Tips' at netrider.net.au started by Undertaker666, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Hi all.
    First Post, so please go easy on me.
    Just got my Learners Permit today. Having never been on a bike before, it was an experience. One question I forgot to ask and I am sure it was mentioned in the class, but I must not have heard it, is ----- when you are riding on the road, where do you look? Is it at the car in front of you or further in front of the car. Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question.
    Thanks in advance.
    Michael


     
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  2. welocme to NR Michael, have you got a bike as yet? Which state are you located in?
    Mate have a look on this site for the learner threads and do alot of reading..
    Where do you look? Hmm, normally well ahead of traffic, where do you loko when you drive a car, at the guy in front of you of thru him and ahead to see what traffics doing? You have to look 'ahead' around and behind you. As a learner, get yourself to one of the places where we have learner sessions and you will learn a great deal. The first bit of riding you should do is in any quiet area, this could be an empty car park, an empty industrial estate. Others will chip in so stand by for info overload, the rule is, read the noobs threads on how to ride etc on here, then it is practise, practise, practise, and we all tell you to relax and we all know you'll be shittin yourself as we all did!! so welcome to the ride that brings a smile to your face from here on in :) we are here to help, not scare the shit outta you, but you dont bullshit you either :) NEXT!!!
     
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  3. Thanks Goddie.
    I have just started reading some of the Learner threads. Very informative.
    Thank you again.
    Michael.
     
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  4. good to see you're in sunny melb, got a bike yet? if so what sort, we have quite a few people out east, when you want to come in for a prac session, scream out, we'll get someone to escort you in, this will make you feel safer on the roads till you get your confidence up ok..
     
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  5. Hi Micheal
    You haven't told us if you have a car licence
    Lots of skills are transferable. But the one which is critical on four wheels or two is anticipation, and for that you need to be looking as far PAST the vehicle in front as possible. Practice looking through their rear window and through the windscreen to the vehicle in front of THEM, at least. Position yourself slightly off-centre to the car in front so you have a clearer view ahead. if you get stuck behind a truck or a big 4WD, get into the next lane or ahead as soon as possible. You'll often find that you'll see brake lights going on three or four vehicles ahead; that's how YOU plan your next action.
     
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  6. +1

    You need to know what the traffic is doing, not just what the car in front is doing.

    And also remember potential danger is not only in front of you, it is behind you, in multi lane roads along side you and from side streets to the side of you.
     
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  7. you just look ****ing straight ahead and go as fast as you can.
     
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  8. Thanks to everyone for there advice and offers.
    I have been driving a car since 1986, but am new to bikes and do not own one at present. Still just looking at present.
     
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  9. Hi and welcome,

    Once you are riding, you will find that self preservation will/should get you into the habit of being aware of everything around you, including the sides and behind. Look thru/around the traffic, use your mirrors, and headcheck religiously.

    I found that even after my first 2hr familiarisation course, I was a much more aware driver than I'd ever been before. Have you noticed similar?

    Even though you don't have a bike yet, you're welcome to join us at Saturday practice in Elwood. Get to meet a whole stack of people, and soak in some motorbike wisdoms from the experienced riders.

    Are you looking for a bike now? What did you have in mind?

    Lots of good stuff on this forum, and some really great people too.
     
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  10. Your eyes are the magic key to your safety. The further ahead you see problem, the more time you have to react to it.

    As well, Keep your head on a swivel, always be checked your mirrors etc.

    Your aim is to develope a 'sphere of awareness' around you at all times, and as far as is practical up ahead of you.
     
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  11. As others have said, look thru the car in front of you and as the brake lights come on, it'll give you a lil bit of that extra time to plan what you need to do next.
    ALso, in your lane, move around, so you have the best visibility of whats ahead and if you're approaching an intersection, position yourself best, so the car that needs to turn across your lane or into your lane, can see you from a distance.

    and...always know whats around you, periodically, check whats behind you and how far & whats on either side of you.

    Do these things and after a lil while, it'll just be second nature to you and you'll be doing this without even thinking :)
     
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  12. Just a question regarding headchecks, I believe the MOST test requires you to do these everytime you move off. If this is the case, should I be doing them at traffic lights for instance, I realised I don't currently, well at least I don't look behind me deliberately at the last moment although I usually have a good idea of what is around me. The same goes for when getting to a stop sign?
     
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  13. I ride with paranoia :)

    Every cage out there is looking for an opportunity to run me over, slam on their brakes and all of them do not look where they are going. Unless I get eye contact, I assume they may just decide to jump out infront of me just for giggles.

    At lights, yes - as you might get yet another idiot running a red light. Always check whats behind me even if the car has stopped to check how much of a numb brain the person is.
     
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  14. just keep your eyes peeled, check your mirrors regularly, always headcheck if you intened to change lanes!!
     
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  15. Michael, did you do a learner's course before getting your Ls? (Not sure if it's compulsory in Vic). If not do one - money well spent.

    As others have said, learning to ride has been a good refresher in conscientious driving - was getting slack in the indicator and head-check department after all these years.
     
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  16. Yes, I did do a Learners course. But to be honest, the company I used was one of the most disorganized I have ever seen. Firstly, I was put on a daelim 125. Being 6'3 and size 12 feet, I was unable to use the feet controls. They then put me on a 50cc scooter which was so small I could have just carried it around the course. Hence, I still do not fully know to use the clutch & gears. Have spoken to some other companies for some private lessons on clutch/gear, but starting at $100 per hour, it's not cheap and the friends I have that own bikes are in the 1000cc plus category.
    Michael
     
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