due to current police activity at favourite stretch of road (b.s.) i've been compelled to seek new recreational riding area's where one can experience 1st, 2nd and even 3rd and 4th gear without fear of consequence from said policing activity. And so i've found myself venturing out to new housing estates. Beautiful smooth brand new black top. :grin: no resisidents or neighbours. :grin: No trees either. :grin: and no speed limit signs. :grin: and you can even throw down some witches hats to sort out a loop. There's a part of me that didn't want to share this information and another part that says sod it. we're all brothers.