ahh yes it has been a long time since i have posted on any forum anywhere so this feels slightly odd, but anyhow... how are we all? just getting into biking, had the dirt bikes and that when i was younger but now wanting to make a move to a road bike. much to the great displeaure of my mother in particular. already got my learners permit down at Armstrongs in Thomastown. (highly recommended by the way, top bunch of guys) thought i might become a member and enjoy some of the great benefits that being a member offers. and hopefully join some of you on a ride in the near future. now this may be a little off topic, mods let me know if it is, but i dont know if many of you know of the guy on the bike that was killed on thursday last week in reservoir on mahoneys rd, my condolences to anyone that is related some how to this person of course, but my parents happened to see it after a few minutes it happened, and this put mum in tears knowing that i am looking for a bike. now im living under there roof at the moment and just wondering if you guys have gone through anything similar with regards to really wanting a bike but also really wanting to respect the wishes of your parents. obviously there is nothing except myself stopping me from getting a bike and my parents couldnt have a say, but at the same wanting keep everyone happy to a certain degree. that was also part of the reason i joined netrider, to try educate myself as much as possible and take the necessary precautions. so yeah did any of you go through a similar thing, how did you approach it and with what outcome. cheers guys, glad to be here too.