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Discussion in 'Everything Else' at netrider.net.au started by Matrix, Mar 12, 2008.
This stuff looks too good to be true
I would imagine that after a few hundred (or lots more) nails would leave no rubber left and make the tyre wear. But I like the concept
wouldn't that make them really heavy, and effect the ability to change direction quickly?
Snake oil salesmen have been flogging magic, puncture elimination products since the pneumatic tyre was invented.
There are good reasons why precisely none have remained on the market for long.
I'll take my chances with properly fitted, well maintained standard rubber thank you very much.
Correction, stuff like this is used widely with enduro bikes.
Which are used for a pretty specialist purpose in an environment that is very hostile to tyres and where the time lost in repairing a puncture can be critical to competitiveness.
Everyday road vehicles, however, are a rather different teapot full of eels and don't really justify the farting around and potential downsides (balancing problems, ride quality, impossibility of subsequent repairs when a puncture does happen all spring immediately to mind as having been documented in the past).
Bearing in mind the rarity of sudden total deflation incidents with modern tubeless rubber, the cost/benefit doesn't stack up for a road bike.
Now, if the tyre manufacturers themselves were offering tyre made this way.....
No need to get all uppity about being wrong.
Fair cop .
Dirt bikes, and particularly competition dirt bikes not being familiar territory for me, they tend not to spring immediately to mind.
However, I do stand by my comment to the extent that, when marketed for road vehicles, the various magic goops have fallen pretty flat in the marketplace and have consistently failed to make an impression for any or all of the reasons listed, plus, probably, a few others that I've forgotten.
Dunno about anyone else, but I don't live in mortal fear of a tyre failure (crosses fingers firmly), in spite of suffering my first major off as a result of a blowout.
In 20 years and a lot of kms, I've suffered three punctures on bikes, all in tubed tyres. Two were a result of poor fitting. Since going to tubeless, I've experience precisely none.
I'll take the risk [-o< .
I carry a puncture repair kit on my bike just incase.
This system sounds very very interesting! I think I'd consider it for the road bike IF the price was fair.
I think the various tyre puncture goops over the years haven't succeeded, NOT because they didn't work, but because people bet on not needing it.
Agreed Rob. The high mileage Touring blokes all carry stuff. Most others just carry a phone.
Ah, I may be being misunderstood here. Certainly, if I was travelling any distance from convenient help, I would carry tyre repair gear appropriate to the type of tyre.
I was, perhaps incorrectly, assuming that this was being sold on safety grounds for the prevention of sudden catastrophic deflation. Whilst I'll agree, on the basis of first hand experience, that such an event isn't pleasant, I maintain that, with modern rubber, the frequency of such failures without warning, doesn't justify the cost or potential downsides of aftermarket treatments.
i recon this stuff is great . imagine puncturing your front tyre on the freeway at 100ks with cars up your arse.
I rekon if you hit something bad enough to cause an immediate deflation in a normal tyre then the goop wouldn't save your tyre. You don't see them yank those screws out with pliers do you? They unscrew them to keep the puncture small.
If you get a slow leak, your handling gets bad, but you'd be able to slow and pull over quite safely... and you'd save quite a bit of $$ me thinks in the long run.
Be aware that no tyre manufacturer will honour any warranty with any type of sealant put into their tyres.
Punctured tyres should be removed & inspected internally for any damage as this can cause disasterous results.
Any type of sealant is a TEMPORARY repair & should be attended to by a trained tyre technician as soon as possible.
I'm with you on this one Pat. But then what would I know. I'm only a 30,000k a year road rider.