Hello NetRider forum, I am new to this forum and would really appreciate if anyone can help clarify a few things in regards to a negligent driving fine that I have received. I have read the other posts about Neg Driving Fines however their circumstances are different and I feel do not relate to my case. My names Scott, I am 19, and I have been riding my bike (ZX2R) for several months now. Although still on my L's, I have been accustomed to the roads in my area for both commuting for work daily and also for group rides. One Saturday morning after work (split shift 5-8am), I was riding my bike on my way home behind a friend of mine in a car (with the fair 3m gap) when we approach a corner turning right. Bear in mind that although it was nice weather, it had been raining the night before up until early morning, so the floor had still been somewhat wet. Before we approach the turn, I was planning to overtake my friend as he was slowing down (on straight road), but as I reached the turn, my friend was still ahead of me so I tried to slow down. As I turned the corner, my efforts to change direction were not enough which kept me in a slightly upright position. This was due to the fact that the floor was covered in white lines (paint lines for the road- but on the side) which made it slippery, and also the fact that I didn't have much sleep the previous night, which may have made my decisions slow, however I have ridden without harm or any problems on countless occasions after work as I am always filled with coffee. As I continued knowing that I was going to crash, in shock I got a bit of whiskey throttle and ended up crashing straight into a tree at about 60ks. I ended up flipping and landing on the floor, in full protective gear, except boots. I felt no pain in my upper body and did not get any damage to both my helmet or jacket, but knew something was wrong with my leg as it was in lots of pain. There were no witnesses of the accident and the lights had been red at the lights before the turn. Lying on the floor, I indicated to passer-bys for assistance and shortly after several cars pulled aside to help me and called the ambulance. They arrived 30 minutes later, without sirens on, and even stopped at the red lights before getting here. Surely if the emergency number for the ambulance is called, they should at least have their sirens on? As the fee for the ambulance service still gets paid for? If the charge is to be brought up and its a large amount, will I be able to dispute to reduce the cost as they had not at least given me the courtesy of arriving as fast as possible, in which I even saw them waiting at the traffic light closest to me as I was on the ground. Cops later arrived on scene, and after getting all of my details, they advised me that I will be fined just because they happened to arrive to the crash, even though I was already injured, and getting carried into the ambulance. I had no insurance on the vehicle and was advised by a social worker in the hospital that I had the chance of claiming from my third party insurer for some medical costs or lost wages however didn't give effort towards it as I was in hospital for most of the time and was unable to complete the forms. A few weeks later after I returned home, I received a penalty notice of the crash with a fine of $433 for Negligent Driving (No Death or GBH) and listed as a demerit offence. For a person that's on a learner licence, surely they would give discretion to when a person crashed without any damages or injuries to any other parties. Especially as there are no witnesses to my accident. Is there any piece of legislation that can support my claim and either remove the fine or the loss of demerit points? I have read the other posts and gather that if police were to arrive on scene, then they would have to charge the person by law, but I still personally believe that this is quite unfair. As my mate had described it, kicking someone when they're down. Being unable to work for over a month, and still paying weekly and monthly for expenses, this fine does take a toll. From the other post, I have seen that people are recommending to see a traffic lawyer like 'Mark Stenberg & Associates' if I were to contest this fine, preferably by letter of appeal rather than in court. Is it worth the fight and are my chances of winning the case high? Any OP with experience with the matter or knowledge in this area that would like to share would help me out immensely. My apologies for the long read.