Im looking at buying my first bike since riding farmbikes when i was a teenager. I've always loved naked bikes so it seems its a toss up between vtr250 or monster since the initial pricing isnt that different from what i can see. er-5s GSX400's and XJR400's are too rare. and the cb400 is just too new to be available at a reasonable price 2nd hand. im gunna guess that servicing is exxy on the duke? Im 25 and newly got my l's, what sort of price am i up for on insurance? the fellow at peter stevens quoted me $300 on a GS50 when i went in there to have a look what was available. The other option i guess is a motard/trail bike but my concern here is comfort. I want to be able to do semi regular long rides out to the country ie. 3+ hours. How long can you spend on a motard/dakar style bike before getting a numb arse?