This is probably a terrible idea that will offend everyone in just one post. I'm coming off P's in a month or so and have been reading everything I can find (and watching youtube videos, talking to a friend who works at Sydney City Motorcycles, etc) to decide what my shortlist to ride is. My LAMS bike is a KTM Duke 200 ABS, bloody brilliant little thing, just lacking at anything over 100kph. Not supposed to do more than 90 on P's? That's just daft on a motorbike, the last thing I need is cars coming up behind me 20kph faster than I am. The bike will hold 110kph but there's nothing in reserve. Still, awesome bike around town. I'm no Marc Marquez wannabe and though I have sufficient testosterone to have fun on windy bits, I don't think I'll ever be very good or fast at it, and I'm for the most part happy cruising. Over the holidays I took 3 x 500km day trips on the KTM so I'd like something comfy (unlike the ktm!!!) I also will be taking it on unsealed roads but not off-road. $15k on road limit. Must have ABS. 800cc tops, really want <700. The short list: Versys 650 - Looks like a proper bike, all the power I need, most versatile and practical. Is it also enough fun? Honda CB650F - Impeccable build, all round nice guy bike, ticks every box Aprilia Shiver 750 - Because sex!! Is it practical enough? Will it break? Is it worth it just for that sound? Things that got crossed off: Street Triple R - SO CLOSE. But.. Expensive, British and ugly. Kawasaki Z800 - Also so close! But its 'spot' in the shortlist got taken by the Honda. Probably 'too much' bike for me at the stage too. BMR F800R - I drive a BMW and one boring, soulless, expensive German vehicle in the family is enough Ducati 696 - I see it as a niche or enthusiasts bike, I need something more generic. Like cooled with water. KTM 690R - So rare even KTM didn't have one at the Melbourne expo. 80% of the bike for 120% the price. Yamaha MT-09 - All the switch gear feels like it will break a day out of warranty. Too much motor for the rest of the bike, too much criticism of the suspension and RbW throttle response. Probably too grunty for me too. Honda NC750SA - Where did the rest of the power go? Am I reading these numbers right? CB650F seems better in every way. Suzuki V-Strom 650 - Obviously the Versys took its spot. Mostly based on convos with my friendly 'expert' but I have to say sitting on the Versys was more comfortable. MV Agusta Brutale 675 - I'm not a ****ing psycho Benelli 600R, Suzuki GSR750, Yamaha FZ8N - No ABS available. Did miss anything?