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My brothers coming back form Iraq soon :O

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by wang chung, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. Only for 4 weeks or so then back to iraq for 3 months, then hopefully back for good.

    I was never really scared of him dieing in that place, since his a computer nerd and would hardly leave the base.

    Should i expect him to return a a changed man?

    Just so many people come back from wars and end up having psychological issues ?

    Or was this more of a case back in the day of vietnam style?

    More so him - since he was raised in the country and wasn't really exposed to much nasty stuff. Mommy's boy comes to term ( kinda like i am / used to be )

    I dunno :? :? :?
  2. #2 Ktulu, Feb 21, 2007
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    He'll probably have new and awesome tactics for everyday stuff like Yco1deXOzN8[/media]]dealing with taxi drivers.

    I dunno about post-traumatic stress disorder too much... but hopefully he'll be distracted by all the money in his bank account from active duty in Iraq... I've heard $2k/week ^_^
  3. Yeah after 6 months it's like 50-60k i think

    25 year old...

    Deposit on house or Skyline and a Ducatti

    He cant make up his mind :LOL:
  4. He'd be mad not to put it in property... but that's just me.

    You can earn similar cash in danger money living onsite, underground at a mine in Tassie - I hear guys come out of a shift there and pay off half their house.

    ... others spent a hectic month at a casino with 3 blondes and a shedload of grog before going back to work to do it all again :?
  5. Yeah, property is the way to go.

    But, working for 6months and putting it into property isn't half as fun as going to the casino with 3 blondes :)

    Young people are stupid remember
  6. Oh of course!

    I mean, a property is a potential 25 year investment... but herpes... that's forever.

  7. :rofl: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
  8. I don't know, but surely the armed forces would be offfering/giving all personnel counseling during their time there and afterwards?
  9. Some even get free trips to the USA
  10. Why do you think so many conscripts volunteered to go to Vietnam in the 70s??? $20,000 Armed Forces Home Loan at 4% interest (this when a private's FORTNIGHTLY wage was $72.00 after tax....)

    And they were in more danger on the trip over and the trip back than when they were there...

    {Of course some did come back with psychological problems. But I knew a lot of them and they were cases for treatment before they went....}

    Good to hear the man's going to be back in good old Oz soon, anyway....
  11. What a fcuking stupid thing to generalise.
    Lucky for you my friend Coney is not alive to read this.
    Maybe I should forward this onto his wife and she can deal with you.
    I think you owe quite a few viet vets an apology.
  12. VERY poor taste. Ever thought of getting a job at DVA? they'd love you there..

    + 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000 :roll:
  13. What's generalising, for goodness sake? I said I knew a lot of them. I said many of them were cases for treatment before they went. What's generalising about that? Do you call going into Liverpool on a Saturday night with a 15" Bowie knife in your belt, normal??? I don't mind having a discussion about it (I was there, as I mentioned) but there's nothing to answer in your post.....

    I wonder if you two bleeding hearts voted for and supported the political scum who conspired to revile our returning veterans? I bet you did. Don't criticise me on military service, I was called up for 2 years and stayed in serving my fellow soldiers for more than 7. I bet you'd be hiding under the bed if the same thing had happened to you....
  14. He will get a debrief on his return to help him return to civilian life. Alot has changed in the Australian military since Vietnam. My father inlaw got nothing and still gets nightmares today. Alot of our soldiers are on their 3rd tour of Iraq and are starting to get bunt out. My brother may get deployed this year and can't wait to go.
  15. Some of the soldiers will get defriefing , but dont look at that as a magic cure.
    It wont wipe the memorys of what he has seen.
    computer nerd or front line infantry, he will see death, destruction and things that will haunt him for the rest of his life.

    best thing is dont talk to him about it .....thats right .....DONT
    he will talk about it when he is ready , he will put on a brave face , but the truth comes out at night when the nightmares start.

    There is help through DVA if he needs it and there is a vets ward at the Austin Hospital ( repat campus) for military and ex military who suffer PTSD.
  16. I'm forwarding these comments onto the viet vets motorcycle club as well as coney's missus.

    I'll let them deal with your shitful and spiteful comments.
    Maybe even Gerry can have a few choice words with you you insensitive bastard.
  17. smee, I'm happy to discuss any subject with you as long as we have a level playing field. On this one we don't. You're arguing your opinion from someone else's opinions. I'm arguing them from my experiences. You were a child when these things were happening; I was there.

    To quote your own words "to be educated is......."
  18. Wang chun

    I have a great respect for our return servicemen from all periods. I remember about seven years ago feeling so overwhelmed, teary eyed infact witnessing that our youth are really getting into the spirit of respect and appreciation that our older generation went through fighting for different causes overseas. I dont think I ever have seen a generation of young people so appreciative for returned soldiers. The spirit of those original ANZACs is irreplacable and that type of man from that era unfortunately doesn't exist anymore.

    My mothers husband was in the British airforce during WW2 and then migrated here and joined the Australian Army for 35 years and was a Major. He fought in Burma and is such an intelligent productive man still teaching unarmed combat to retiree's, president of the U3A, rides a bicycle 3 times a week and performs 10km walk 3 times a week also. Remarkable for a man who is in his 80's now.

    I applied about 2.5 years ago and passed tests as a combat engineer but never continued in-which I will. I remember a really weird question I had to answer, "Do you ever think other people are reading your thoughts?" I still think thats amusing when I think back to it. Re your brother, If he is one whom doesn't cope from service, todays military are well aware and experienced with the stress's of combat and have very good support and councelling in place which involve family members reintergrating if needed. What is your brothers position in the military and involvement with Iraq? You should give the repect he deserves which I think that you will and give him time to re-adjust to Australian social, democracy and civilisation which he will certainly need if he was gone over there for a while he may find it a bit of a culture shock coming back here..
  19. No bleeding heart here.

    1: I've done service in the army and the reason I joined would be the same altruistic reasons most have enlisted. I won't assume anything about your reasons as you seem to be making enough assumptions for all of us.

    2. Carrying a bowie around on a Saturday night ISN'T normal, either is spending most of your 365 and a wakey as a forward scout being strung tighter than a duck's arse and if that isn't enough for some blokes to drop off their perch years later then tell me what is.

    3. I marched with the blokes on the welcome home parade here in Melb and more recently at the Long Tan celebrations at the Shrine as well and I was more than happy to donate a "brick" for the museum at PI so don't attempt to tar me with the label given to those spitting, abusing A*seholes that villified our guys when they returned.

    I'm proud to be a supporter of Vietnam Vets and political opinions aside, know that our guys in Vietnam and more recently in other AO's have and always will do an outstanding job irrespective of what others think.

    Before throwing insults about supporting political scum and hiding under beds, you should at least get a clearer idea of who you're talking to.


  20. Being a cook was not the same as being on the frontline.
    I spoke to a few viet friends of mine and showed them Hornet's comments.
    All I can say is that he would not be very welcome to any of their functions/reunions.
    Imay have been too young at the time but that does not mean that I lack the sensitivity of what they went through, in fact it give me a better perspective. Your insolent opinions are in the minority thankfully.
    You owe a few people an apology Paul.
    I have had my say on this. =;