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Movement towards a one world government?

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by pro-pilot, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. Just for interest:

    After listening to how carbon markets will cause chaos in national economies, a representative for the IMF (who also is on the IPCC :roll: ) has mentioned in subtle terms that a global economic system might need to be implemented in order to stem hyper-inflation in local markets and avoid a cascade collapse of financial instruments. Especially as they predict oil will move to US$300 dollars a barrel in the next 10 years. There was of course no argument that supplies are not an issue, however it is true that over the last 25 years the number of refineries capable of lifting production are non-existent. I was not surprised to hear for example that in the U.S. alone 20 years ago there were 350 refineries. Today that number stands at 90.

    That was in 2004!


    I though that this stuff was all pie in the sky rhetoric, until one starts reading news material being bandied around:



    Needless to say, the movement towards a ‘carbon tax’ (which has little to do with directly improving the environment) is unstoppable with many zealots preaching in the isles.

    The actual truth behind science has been left long ago and buried amongst a quagmire of propaganda and informational haze.
  2. I, for one, welcome a global unified government. The sooner we have that, the sooner we can get around to having SuperDimensionalFortresses crash-land on Macross Island, and shortly thereafter, fighter jets that transform into giant robots.
  3. http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/bloomberg-calls-for-tax-on-carbon-emissions/

    The real argument around this topic is what Pandora’s box will it open?

    The establishment of a ‘carbon’ tax starts with examining industry and then once proven to have failed will shift to taxing other sources of CO2 such as people themselves.

    One might think that this is conspiracy junk, but we have seen similar lines of transgression from governments before.

    Remembering the people they are targeting are not the adults of today, but children and the next generations.
  4. I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves
  5. I'd like to put my hand up as well. Not very useful, but also no threat ... give me a new bike and decent computer every few years and I'll be happy ... oh yes - one of those android women too please ... with the "no nagging" upgrade :grin:
  6. One world government is a hot topic in Christian fundamentalist arenas, and in conspriacists realms too, citing the illuminati and other organisations. It's weird and wonderful stuff.

    Personally, if financial imperatives unify the globe, we're all sunk... the globe needs us to unify on humanitarian grounds.

    Now, onto something else: PP, you've fcuked up another possibly good message with sloppy work... yet again. sigh.

    90 refineries in the US and no new world capacity??? :roll:

    Did you even read the article you linked to??? It has the following graph - look at the blue line:
    ...that backs up what a later article located here: http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12227 which states there were 149 in US alone as of 2005.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_refineries backs this up.

    India recently finished building a huge refinery: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06241/717209-28.stm and from industry scuttlebutt has plans for more.

    It's true to say that there's barely any new green field refineries coming on stream due to all the new environmental rigmaroll's companies need to go through. Business's are instead spending dollars in expansions on sites they already run/own/or can buy. Until recently I was privvy to ExxonMobil's capacity expansion investment budget and it'd make your head spin.

    The article YOU linked to says as much:
    As an adjunct to that quote, IIRC, the US had OVERCAPACITY up until 1995... there was NO imperative to build new capacity until around then... even the graph shows capacity increase from 1995.


    PP, you are a politician of the kind you despise. You're no better since you make claims that aren't very well backed up.
    ... perhaps you should join them marooned on some island as well where you can reflect on your bias's and prejudices and take stock of your scientific philosophy.

    This actually may be entirely right.

    PP - on another point, have you provided a link anywhere regarding the Ontario climatology conference you attended recently? Some of us wouldn't mind exploring some of the statements made in your conference thread.

    Edit - some rephrasing for clarity
  7. "The alternative to global democracy is not the ABSENCE of global government, but HIDDEN global government by the few, the self appointed and the unaccountable"

    -George Monboit

  8. I love graphs

  9. I'm going out for a ride, but I'll be back to comment on Revelation chapter 13 :LOL:.
  10. Top work Rob :eek:wned:

    and nice Kent Brockman quote Russ

  11. More refining capacity coming on stream in China: http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/080611/0405637.html

    Another Indian refinery will be going on line before Dec: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/06/08/stories/2008060850890200.htm

    Reliance Jamnagar planning a greenfields refinery. http://www.newkerala.com/one.php?action=fullnews&id=71642

    Another refinery planned for Iraq: http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/32088

    etc etc etc.