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MotoGP 06 - Rnd 4 - Shanghai Circuit (CHN)

Discussion in 'Racing, Motorsports, and Track Days' at netrider.net.au started by VtrElmarco, May 4, 2006.

  1. MotoGP - Round 4 - Shanghai Circuit (CHN)

    The ever travelling MotoGP circus ships the big top over to China for round 4. While the Shanghai Circuit looks spectacular, it is not a favourite of the riders. Facilities and safety are world class, but the Herman Tilke designed circuit lacks the high speed corners that the riders tend to like. It was designed to maximise passing opportunities for the F1’s, but this does not make a great bike circuit. You only have to look at the stupid 180 degree 1st gear corner following a 330 km/hr straight as an example. You wouldn’t wanting to be thinking “Did I leave the oven on?” as you sail past your braking marker!

    There is a list of about 6-7 riders that can win in China, so I will randomly pick the 7 that I think have a shot:

    Melandri is full of confidence after a great win in Turkey. He is showing great maturity, by stealing the win after stalking Stoner for a lap and a half. We will have to club him in the knee ‘ice skater style’ when he gets to Australia.

    Rossi has won here last year in the pi$$ing rain. He still amazes me as he had a truly crap weekend at Turkey and still got a fourth. He is still waiting for Edwards to finish.

    Hayden has been super consistent all year, and must know he can take that next step for a win outside the USA. Not every circuit is as hard as Laguna Seca and farm boy needs to get a bit angry I think. Poke him with sticks everybody.

    Stoner knows he can run at the front with the big boys now, but does he still look 12 years old to you? He has shown maturity beyond his years, and looks a real chance. He also dominated in the wet on a 250 cc last year.



    Both Sete and Loris know they have good speed on the Duck’s, but Bridgestone need to lift a little bit to get week to week consistency. The massive straights at Shanghai will suit the stupidly powerful Ducati’s and expect to see some bright red missiles sucking the paint off some opposition bikes as they fly by.

    Teeny, weeny, little Danny Pedrosa is also looking threatening in the wings. He will just have to curb the 250 corning style towards the end of the races, as he may be burning up his front tire.

    As for the rest, Suzuki may have made a big step in there bright blue piece of crap, as they were no reports of engine parts littering the track in Turkey. They have employed the guy who developed the GSXR1000 engine, so next year, expect to some blinged up GP bike with fluoro neons, Yoshi exhausts, Oggy knobs and fender eliminators. They will also hold you up in the corners and hose you on the straights.

    (Now, now Mark, be nice…)

    Kawasaki was almost invisible at Turkey, so they may need to do a little work to catch up to the rest of the field.

    It’s time to order a case of Tiger beer, some cheap Chinese take out and kick back to watch another round of the world’s best soap opera for blokes. I am also sure some kind citizen will change the title of this post to proper Netrider MotoGP format (Big shout out to Dan, our ever loving, ever vigilant Racing and Motorsports Moderator!)

    (This may be the last preview for a month as I am away travelling. Now don’t cry people, as I will try to post something from the road on Le Mans and Mugello, but I may be too drunk to bother…)
     
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  2. Re: MotoGP - Round 4 - Shanghai Circuit (CHN)

    Damn fine piece of writing, highly entertaining and informative too. Keep this up and you could get a "shut up you're making the rest of us look like crap", warning............
     
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  3. Noice work VTRelMoto :applause:

    Is Kenny Roberts snr still rocking back and forth??

    :)
     
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  4. Re: MotoGP - Round 4 - Shanghai Circuit (CHN)

    Thanks for the Kudos dude.

    I may have to invest in several of the Motocourse annual's as it may make my reasearch a little easier.

    One day I will have a look on eBay for some past year volumes.
     
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  5. Coverage times:

    Foxtel: Fox Sports 2 - Sunday 14th May 1:30pm
    Ten: Monday 15th May 1:40am :roll:
     
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  6. I would like to speak for all Netriders in DEMANDING that you continue your updates when you're on the road.

    /The suxuki comments were my faves this round!

    Edit: I was going to correct my typo there, but I kinda like it :p
     
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  7. Thanks for the coverage times Dan :)
     
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  8. At 1.30pm Sunday my couch takes control of my life..
     
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  9. Great post. Loved the Suzuki and Kawasaki comments!

    And you must visit some internet cafes for the updates whilst you're away.

    My hideous Foxtel bill every month is more than made up for with Motogp and WorldSBK coverage!
     
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  10. MotoGP 2006 - Round Four - Shanghai - Day 1 Practice Results
    May 12th, 2006

    ( http://www.mcnews.com.au/motorcycleracing2006/motogp/rnd4/day1_times_morning.htm )

    MotoGP FP1 (WET)

    Rossi 2m12.060
    Stoner 1m12.062 <<<<<<-----------(he must have been flying)
    Roberts 2m12.11
    Capirossi 2m13.03
    Gibernau 2m13.22
    Hayden 2m13.44
    De Puniet 2m13.77
    Melandri 2m14.23
    Vermeulen 2m15.00
    Edwards 2m15.19
    Elias 2m15.26
    Hopkins 2m15.31
    Tamada 2m15.34
    Nakano 2m15.36
    Pedrosa 2m15.39
    Hofmann 2m19.39
    Checa 2m19.53
    Ellison 2m22.14
    Cardoso 2m22.23

    250cc FP1 (WET)

    West 2m15.7
    Takahashi 2m16.1
    De Angelis 2m16.3
    Dovizioso 2m16.4
    Guintoli 2m16.5
    Aoyama 2m16.7
    Lorenzo 2m16.9
    Barbera 2m17.0
    Smrz 2m17.3
    Ballerini 2m17.5

    125cc FP1 (WET)

    Pesek 2m24.9
    Talmacsi 2m24.9
    Bautista 2m25.0
    Pasini 2m25.0
    Luthi 2m25.3
    Sandi 2m25.3
    Di Meglio 2m25.6
    Simon 2m25.8
    Pirro 2m25.9
    Lai 2m26.0
     
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  11. Go Westie!!!

    Always good in the wet :grin:
     
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  12. Speechless............ :shock:
     
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  13. Times from Free Practice 3 (Dry)

    Gooooooo Casey!!

    1. Casey Stoner AUS Honda LCR 2min 0.603 secs
    2. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team 2min 0.941 secs
    3. Loris Capirossi ITA Ducati Marlboro Team 2min 0.973 secs
    4. Colin Edwards USA Camel Yamaha Team 2min 1.357 secs
    5. Valentino Rossi ITA Camel Yamaha Team 2min 1.357 secs
    6. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 2min 1.548 secs
    7. Randy de Puniet FRA Kawasaki Racing Team 2min 1.651 secs
    8. Makoto Tamada JPN Konica Minolta Honda 2min 1.843 secs
    9. John Hopkins USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 2min 1.857 secs
    10. Shinya Nakano JPN Kawasaki Racing Team 2min 1.966 secs
    11. Sete Gibernau SPA Ducati Marlboro Team 2min 1.990 secs
    12. Toni Elias SPA Fortuna Honda 2min 2.188 secs
    13. Marco Melandri ITA Fortuna Honda 2min 2.520 secs
    14. Chris Vermulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 2min 2.566 secs
    15. Kenny Roberts USA Team Roberts 2min 2.949 secs
    16. Carlos Checa SPA Tech 3 Yamaha 2min 2.964 secs
    17. Alex Hofmann GER Pramac d'Antin MotoGP 2min 3.275 secs
    18. James Ellison GBR Tech 3 Yamaha 2min 4.292 secs
    19. Jose Luis Cardoso SPA Pramac d'Antin MotoGP 2min 4.777 secs
     
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  14. Final grid positions from QP


    1 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 1'59.009
    2 21 John HOPKINS USA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP SUZUK 1'59.373
    3 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Camel Yamaha Team YAMAHA 1'59.383
    4 56 Shinya NAKANO JPN Kawasaki Racing Team KAWASAKI 1'59.570
    5 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 1'59.574
    6 15 Sete GIBERNAU SPA Ducati Marlboro Team DUCATI 1'59.639
    7 27 Casey STONER AUS Honda LCR HONDA 1'59.890
    8 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Fortuna Honda HONDA 2'00.014
    9 17 Randy DE PUNIET FRA Kawasaki Racing Team KAWASAKI 2'00.044
    10 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Ducati Marlboro Team DUCATI 2'00.078
    11 6 Makoto TAMADA JPN Konica Minolta Honda HONDA 2'00.176
    12 71 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP SUZUKI 2'00.304
    13 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Camel Yamaha Team YAMAHA 2'00.720
    14 7 Carlos CHECA SPA Tech 3 Yamaha YAMAHA 2'01.052
    15 24 Toni ELIAS SPA Fortuna Honda HONDA 2'01.275
    16 66 Alex HOFMANN GER Pramac d'Antín MotoGP DUCATI 2'01.972
    17 77 James ELLISON GBR Tech 3 Yamaha YAMAHA 2'02.088
    18 10 Kenny ROBERTS JR USA Team Roberts KR211V 2'02.311
    19 30 Jose Luis CARDOSO SPA Pramac d'Antín MotoGP DUCATI 2'02.948
     
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  15. GO STONER!!! Good to see that Stoner ran with the pack in the dry aswell as the wet. It's also great to see Hayden up top again. Maybe...just maybe we will see him finally get that race win.

    Also good to see Colin Edwards up there. His form has been alittle disappointing. Did you make a typo or did Edwards and Rossi really get the EXACT same times??
     
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  16. MotoGP results

    1 D.PEDROSA 0'00"000
    N.HAYDEN + 0'01"505
    C.EDWARDS + 0'14"634
    J.HOPKINS + 0'19"265
    C.STONER + 0'23"061
    M.TAMADA + 0'23"879
    M.MELANDRI + 0'24"101
    L.CAPIROSSI + 0'24"467
    S.GIBERNAU + 0'28"358
    S.NAKANO + 0'33"815
    T.ELIAS + 0'35"316
    R.DE PUNIET + 0'52"004
    K.ROBERTS + 0'56"293
    C.CHECA + 1'03"575
    A.HOFMANN + 1'11"172
    J.ELLISON + 1'23"075
    JL.CARDOSO + 1'35"150
    V.ROSSI 5 lap(s
    C.VERMEULEN 19 lap(s)

    Rider's Championship

    Nicky Hayden (52)
    Loris Capirossi (51)
    Marco Melandri (45)
    Casey Stoner (41)
    Valentino Rossi (40)
    Daniel Pedrosa (32)
    Toni Elias (32)
    Shinya Nakano (22)
    Colin Edwards (19)
    Sete Gibernau (18)
    Kenny Roberts Jr (17)
    Chris Vermeulen (13)
    Carlos Checa (8)
    Makoto Tamada (8)
    John Hopkins (7)
    James Ellison (3)
    Alex Hofmann (2)
    Jose Luis Cardoso (0)
    Randy De Puniet (0)

    Manufacturers Championship

    Ducati (41)
    Honda (40)
    Kawasaki (30)
    Team Roberts (14)
    Suzuki (14)
    Yamaha (7)


    250cc

    H.BARBERA 0'00"000
    A.DOVIZIOSO + 0'00"266
    H.AOYAMA + 0'03"320
    J.LORENZO + 0'03"602
    Y.TAKAHASHI + 0'03"618
    M.SIMONCELLI + 0'15"850
    R.LOCATELLI + 0'16"003
    S.AOYAMA + 0'16"555
    A.WEST + 0'21"860
    J.SMRZ + 0'27"041
    M.POGGIALI + 0'34"289
    S.GUINTOLI + 0'34"563
    M.CARDENAS + 0'39"232
    A.BALDOLINI + 0'41"696
    D.HEIDOLF + 0'42"693
    A.BALLERINI + 0'43"148
    C.DAVIES + 0'56"667
    J.CLUZEL + 1'00"754
    A.TIZON + 1'08"145
    H.SHIEHAO + 1'45"025
    XIAO JIN 1 lap
    A.PALUMBO 6 lap(s)
    S.PROTO 9 lap(s)
    L.MORELLI 14 lap(s
    HO CHI FENG 18 lap(s)
    WANG ZHU 18 lap(s)
    A.DE ANGELIS 19 lap(s)


    250cc Riders Chamionship

    Andrea Dovizioso (52)
    Jorge Lorenzo (50)
    Hiroshi Aoyama (46)
    Hector Barbera (44)
    Roberto Locatelli (38)
    Yuki Takahashi (31)
    Sylvain Guintoli (27)
    Alex De Angelis (24)
    Martin Cardenas (16)
    Sebastian Porto (15)
    Marco Simoncelli (8)
    Manuel Poggiali (7)
    Jakub Smrz (6)
    Arnaud Vincent (6)
    Andrea Ballerini (4)
    Arturo Tizon (4)
    Chaz Davies (3)
    Shuhei Aoyama (3)
    Dirk Heidolf (2)
    Alvaro Molina (2)
    Anthony West (0)
    Alex Baldolini (0)
    Luca Morelli (0)
    Jules Cluzel (0)

    125cc

    M.KALLIO 0'00"000
    M.PASINI + 0'00"097
    A.BAUTISTA + 0'00"357
    G.TALMACSI + 0'00"899
    J.SIMON + 0'01"106
    L.PESEK + 0'01"886
    H.FAUBEL + 0'20"727
    F.LAI + 0'21"478
    T.KOYAMA + 0'21"558
    S.CORSI + 0'21"640
    S.GADEA + 0'21"722
    R.DE ROSA + 0'22"017
    A.IANNONE + 0'27"491
    J.OLIVE + 0'27"491
    M.DI MEGLIO + 0'39"818
    A.ESPARGARO + 0'49"284
    S.CORTESE + 0'49"332
    M.CONTI + 0'49"500
    N.TEROL + 0'49"744
    S.BRADL + 0'49"793
    M.HERNANDEZ + 0'50"009
    B.SMITH + 0'50"162
    F.SANDI + 0'54"547
    S.GROTZKYJ + 0'55"055
    M.PIRRO + 0'59"726
    K.ABRAHAM + 1'04"809
    J.LITJENS + 1'04"818
    M.TUNEZ + 1'21"244
    R.TAMBURINI + 1'22"707
    V.BRAILLARD + 1'22"994
    D.LOMBARDI + 1'23"596
    I.TOTH + 1'43"819
    M.RANSEDER + 1'50"719
    L.BARONI 3 lap(s)
    P.NIETO 4 lap(s)
    A.MASBOU 9 lap(s)
    T.LUTHI 15 lap(s)
    A.RODRIGUEZ 17 lap(s)

    125cc Rider's Championship

    Alvaro Bautista (70)
    Hector Faubel (45)
    Sergio Gadea (41)
    Mika Kallio (33)
    Lukas Pesek (29)
    Mattia Pasini (29)
    Simone Corsi (25)
    Gabor Talmacsi (23)
    Julian Simon (22)
    Pablo Nieto (19)
    Angel Rodriguez (11)
    Thomas Luthi (8)
    Joan Olive (7)
    Tomoyoshi Koyama (5)
    Raffaele De Rosa (4)
    Andrea Iannone (4)
    Lorenzo Zanetti (3)
    Federico Sandi (2)
    Fabrizio Lai (2)
     
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  17. Tamada 343.7kmh in qualifying :shock: :shock: thats some seriously mind blowing speed.
     
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  18. Valentino Rossi's front tyre
    [IMG:536:426:a63f0af870]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/gsxr1000k4/00007.jpg[/img:a63f0af870]
     
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  19. Valentino Rossi's front tyre
    [IMG:536:426:c9df5d9fd6]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/gsxr1000k4/00007.jpg[/img:c9df5d9fd6]
     
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  20. Stoner is ahead of Rossi in points, and not every Suzuki detonated.......This is gonna be a ripper year I think.
     
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