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Leyland Moke's

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by ward_4e, Feb 21, 2007.

  1. any of you OFAC's have any experence with these cars? I'm looking at one soon as a temp car till i get my baby back.

  2. My olds had one for a while that we fully restored, what do u want to know?
  3. as in Mini moke??

    yep we used to have one.... learned to drive in it!!
  4. I used to have a mini.

    There is a sticker for english cars that read "all the parts falling from this vehicle were proudly made in england". It's very appropriate.

    Part were running scarce in the late 80s and as a result getting hard to find.

    Don't count on it as your only form of transport, but it could be a fun project.
  5. My dad's still got a '72 Leyland Moke that I did a bit of resotration work on. There's not really much too them, although there were two distinctly different versions - a road version and a farm version. The main difference was in the diff-ratio, the farm version had lower gearing for better acceleration and traction, the road version was geared higher for highways (although that's a scary experience in a Moke). Of course by now many will no longer have the original engine/gearbox since it's so easy to source another one from a Mini or even a Morris - it is possible to work out where the engine originally came from though from the engine number (I've got a list somewhere of all of them). Depending on the engine many don't have synchro on 1st gear or reverse (something to remember when driving) and finding 2nd gear (or any gear on an 850 version) is often difficult if not impossible. Also be sure to check the suspension very carefully - in particular the height of the vehicle at each corner as the rubber cones are prone to sagging (can't remember if they ever fitted hydroelastic suspension to the Moke but that introduces even more problems).
  6. Yeah my cuz had one for a few years, freakin' cold and I mean freaken cold in winter, but we used to pick up chicks in it! OH and you can turn the rear footwell into an esky :beer:

    Rough as guts but above 15 degrees puts a smile onya face
  7. the main reason I am after one is basic transport, a reliable bus taht once i get my track day bike going could be a liitle . Up here on teh gold coast its mre than bearable riding in the rain so I really dont care about driving in the rain either...

    My old man now is in tasmania and has a wealth of facts but he is a bit out of reach for practical advice. My main concern is the areas that would age / break down quickly... cv joints over, temp etc...

    My main question is to those who while rebuilding or repairing, did you notice anything that could be a serious problem... apart from the fact they have 4 wheels.

    And what would be a reasonable cost for one. Red book says that the should be 900 - 1900 private sale but most of the wash tubs I've looked at are 3-4 grand.
  8. The red book becomes meaningless on older vehicles. they could be worth a couple of hunder through to mid thousands depending on condition.

    the CVs do go on them, but they can be relatively easily rebuilt, provided they haven't worn too much.

    Shocks and cones (as mentioned above) are another area to look. Blue smoke.

    There are places that specialise in parts for them, but it wont be cheap to maintain and in the modern sence of the work wont be reliable.
  9. Rust is a big issue, not only in the floor but also in the side pods so make sure you take the side covers off and have a good look inside them, particularly the one that houses the battery. Also you need to decide whether you want one with a roof or not - many Mokes have been fitted with roll cages that eliminate the original roof bows. If you do want a roof make sure you check it's in good condition and if it has the side curtains or not (some roofs are one piece - others have removeable sides). Apart from the suspension can't say I've noticed anything particularly prone to problems - after all there's not really much on a Moke that can go wrong (even the electrics are ultra, ultra simple). Make sure to check that if it has a plastic fan that all the blades are still intact - and definately an idea to check that all brakes are correctly adjusted (they need to be done manually and if they've been neglected it may be a sign that other service items have also been overlooked).
    Redbook prices are a bit iffy - there's been a huge jump in Moke prices recently for some reason and even very rough bodyshells have been avertised for 2-3 grand. Mokes in good condition are closer to 10-15 grand. Cheapest models are usually the farm versions (often stashed in a shed by their owners and unused for years) - priciest version is the 1275cc version which also had the disc front brakes from the Mini Cooper. Of course if you're on the Gold Coast then a lot of Mokes may well be ex-rental. Very few registered mokes on the road will still be original so worth checking just what has been modified/replaced (of course being Leyland even new vehicles used different parts depending on what day of the week they were made).
  10. My first car was a Moke. I loved the thing. :grin:

    You should be aware that they are horribly unreliable and don't like being driven at speed for long distances. They are always rusting somewhere (particularly inside the boxes on the side). CV joints and ball joints tend to go regularly. CV's aren't too much trouble but ball joints I found hard to get. A new engine pipe also had to be sourced from Perth. Everything used to fall off (even the winscreen once) but that's part of the charm. Also, the windscreen wiper motor tends to get wet when it rains and stops working.

    That said, they're great fun. :grin:

    Carry a tool kit everywhere. Keep it in the car (that's what the boxes on the side are for) :wink:
    Keep a flat head screw driver on the dashboard so you can open the box to get the tools when you break down in the middle of nowhere. :wink:
  11. 10-15??? Over budget by about 5-10 grand... I'd rather put up with the work whore-car.

    Tomorrow i am check the trading post.
  12. Theres 1 for sale in Melb for $18k :shock: :shock:

    As they say in the movie "tell him he's dreaming"

    And they could almos be considered a motorbike as Cagiva made 1500 under licence, also there were a couple of 4wd prototypes made by Leyland Aussie.

    Vehicle 1981 LEYLAND MOKE CALI
    Price $18,000
    Kilometres 20,000
    Body 0 door 4 seat SOFTTOP
    Colour Hothouse (Monaro) Green
    Interior Colour Hothouse Green
    Transmission 4 speed Manual
    Drive type Front
    Engine 4 cylinder Petrol Carburettor 1.3L (1275cc)
    Reg Plate SKZ 206
    Reg Expiry AUG-2007
    Road Worthy Certificate Yes
    Vehicle ID 3795192
    Brief Comments Fully restored and reconditioned, reluctant but required sale $18,000 ono
    Long Comments Has been driven very little since complete restoration (5000kms max), includes corbeau race seats with 5 point harnesses , extractors, larger 1275cc engine fully reconditioned, stoneguard interior hothouse enamel inside, alloy roll cage, front and rear bull bars in contrasting enamel, spare wheel, immobiliser, fastback softtop and sunraysia rims with wide tyres. Front disc brakes, drum rear.

    Has been professionally restored.

    Full maintenance and service history since ownership.

    Reluctant but required sale.

    No reasonable offer refused - $18,000 or near offer.

    This car has been a big part of my life - I'm sorry to see it go.
  13. A cheaper option would probably be an early soft-top Suzuki Sierra - you can pick those up now for 5-10 grand and they're a lot more reliable than a Moke. Just be careful to avoid any that may have been used on or around the beach as the lower sills are prone to rusting which is difficult and expensive to repair. Also be aware that the really early versions had a 2-stroke, 1L engine - although those aren't that common (some people actually hunt those ones down specifically).
  14. moke... moke... mmmn I am going to have to rethink my cheap transport...
  15. You could just get an old Mini, they can be had for cheap can't they?? Then put a Gixxer Thou donk in it :shock:
  16. or better yet a gixxercart :wink:

    old mini... plausable but i'd really rather have a moke, I have melanomas to feed you know....
  17. You could chop the top??

    Or if it's melanomas you want, what about an old jeep??

  18. nah looks like i have to compensate for something... :wink:

    nice colour though
  19. 2 much to read here. I had one until I was old enough to ride it around as my first car. great car, rarely need brakes for corners. put a hayabusa motor in.
  20. Don't buy one smaller than an 1100. And don't expect it to do 110 km/h for long periods.
    Parts are easy to find now, there's a massive aftermarket for mini gear.
    They are cheap to run, if you do some work yourself. Rust is a problem, but due to Moke's panels being flat and easily accessible, is cheap to repair.
    Gearboxes tend to go on Mokes with larger (12-13") rims. Listen for any sort of whining when not under load (coast or decel)
    My sister had one, and they are a cheap fun car, if you don't have to spend for anything major.
    They also suck profoundly in winter, as they leak, and the interior fogs up horrendously. Imagine riding a bike with leaky clothes/helmet, a constantly fogging visor, and no visibility to the sides or rear if you have the side curtains down. If you have the curtains up, better wear your wet weather gear, and teh spray gets sucked onto teh INSIDE of the windscreen! :shock:
    However, they corner nearly as well as a Mini Minor and are simple and rugged, especially in parking lots. I could lift/drag the rear os teh Moke across into a parking spot.

    Regards, Andrew.