Morning NR, I've just got my Learners yesterday (shout out to Michael and Richard at H.A.R.T), and have been checking not out a few dealerships around Melb in my search for the first bike. I figured I'd share some of my experiences so far. First stop was probably the most common: Peter Stevens Melbourne. I had read in similar threads on this site that Peter Stevens can be very difficult to actually speak to a staff member, particularly in the bike sales section. The first time I went in it was true to form. Looked around at a few bikes for about 20 mins without being able to catch the eye of anyone (Wasn't looking to spend yet, so didn't push it, but an offer of assistance would have been nice). Then I discovered the trick is to go in early. As soon as they're open. Then you're outnumbered by staff and they've got nothing better to do than help you out. Got some good info on the Kawasakis and then head upstairs and got kitted out - Thanks Edward! Second stop was Sumoto in Brunswick. I know, I know... I shouldn't have bothered, but I had to see if the forum reputation held true. It was actually so true that it was entertainingly bad. They obviously rely on first time buyers that don't do any homework. In my 15 minute chat with the sales guy he bestowed upon me these pearls of Sumoto wisdom: -"Grey imports don't exist in the motorcycle world, and we certainly don't sell them." -"These days there isn't actually any difference in build quality between manufacturers" -"Two front discs is so the bike maintains stability while braking in corners" And I never went back. Last stop (so far) was Raceway Motorcycles in Niddrie. These guys were great. It a nice little showroom, staff are attentive and well informed and the kicker... They'll let you test ride with a learner's permit!! Will be headed back there this weekend to see if I can find "the one". Would love to hear some of your experiences! -RRR.