Hi, Noxious - Not trying to hijack - just thought I'd join with my similar Q. I will delete if you so wish. First - I imagine there are a million threads like this - but here I go anyway. Sorry if this causes moderators to facepalm. I am looking for advice on a LAMS bike to get for daily commute and some fun. I have wanted a bike for freakin years but was too young and stupid (where's the party???) – then new growing family and house to worry about. Now Mortgage is chugging along and I am finally – and desperately – ready to get onto a bike and learn and commute. I can't wait. LONG overdue. I'm Brisbane based, 30min drive to work across the south – mainly Johnson Road (into Brown Stains) and 15mins of typical urban 50 zone. When confident I will ride to the Sunny Coast (the dreaded Bruce) as relatives live near Maroochy. So bike needs to be able to cruise at a good speed as well as urban. Me... Male Mid 40s 184cm high 75Kg or so (no scales – average build) Motorbike experience – basically nil. (some – but so little, so long ago – not worth mentioning) I am constantly made aware of dangers of riding but I am confident I am starting from the right head space. I am naturally defensive and have good spatial/situational awareness. I absolutely appreciate how I need to be 'predictive' on a bike and assume I am invisible at all times and have options. Always options. I also just finished the 'so you want to ride a motorbike' thread. Great in depth info. So – A decent LAMS bike to start off. Budget is LOW. I can borrow but really don't want to. Looking around $3k – could go to 4 to 6 with finance – but will avoid unless strongly advised I must for far better options. What I want.... Essentially, SAFE and comfortable. In other words a learners bike that is piss easy, and a bit of fun. Like I say, I might be doing day trips up to the coast if I feel I am progressing well and confident. Fuel economy is also a factor. I don't want to resell for a few years. Do not expect to be able to anyway (budget) for at least 2 years. So something that I will still be having fun on after a year or two. (thinking $4-5k is more on the cards...) Cruisers appeal to me (without any experience) because they look easy, safe, comfortable. I like the idea of upright instead of hunched over the tank. Low to the ground and cruising just seems like it would work. I know I won't know till I try. I have seen and read many bits n pieces on the webs. Cruisers definitely seem a fit so far – but not sure if my budget will allow a cruiser that is reviewed as really safe and easy (Yamaha XV250 and XVS650 are highly reviewed in some places – but the price! – maybe finance is required – ) I also am aware there are other choices for more upright - but I am not familiar with the extent of choices. So, any and all advice about the motorbikes to check out - or avoid!, info about the licensing process I am about to embark upon, general advice and your own experience is welcome. Even if it is "too late! 40 is the cut off! I see Aldi is having safety gear next week (certified to some standards) For a start I think that would be the go (they comply with standards but are Aldi priced) hopefully they are not shithouse (uncomfortable and ill-fitting). I am going into this whole process blind. I do know a rider or two enough that I could hit them up to go for a ride and for advice, but essentially I am on my own. I'll definitely be looking to join some kind of local group once I am off and running. I want to have as much fun as I know a bike will give me, but in the most responsible and safe way i can - avoid bad habits and prove those who look at me like I am a walking corpse when I tell them I'm getting a bike WRONG. (spesh shout out to the inlaws) Thanks in advance for advice or thoughts.