I thought I would stick this in it's own thread, to help cast some light on the pro/cons of knee action, for anyone pondering the subject, and since I see the subject come up from time to time with newish riders, or riders haming their first forays into the finer arts of cornering So what's the story...should I be sticking my knee out through corners?...What's dragging a knee all about...Why do some riders do it? etc etc. To generalize...there is NO NEED for anyone to be sticking their knee out, UNLESS they have reached that level in their riding developement, where sticking their knee out seems to be the natural thing to do, and makes it a useful tool for them. (you'll know when it's time, as it just seems quite natural to do it) Try it beforehand and it will feel all wrong. At some stage, a rider ends up getting quick enough, that through corners, hanging a knee out is almost mandatory if the rider is to maintain the correct riding posture and technique. If you are hanging off well inside the centre line of the bike, your knee is already just "there" - sticking out. You let it fall out naturally (not over-reach). It will help keep your torso aligned correctly, and help you to maintain the correct cornering posture, that is required at the more advanced levels. If you are really "on it", the road will come up to meet your knee as your lean angle increases due to the higher speed you are travelling at, and as a result, your knee might drag on the road (wehoo!). A skilled rider will use his knee as a "feeler" for the road or track surface. He uses it to gauge his lean angles, and will know when he is approaching the maximum he and his bike are capable of, given his own abilities. A few specifics...longer legged riders have an easier time of actually putting their knee down since their knee just happens to stick out further from their legs being folded up on the pegs...shorter riders may never actually drag a knee, unless they are riding hot and hard and have the skill and tyres to do it. Those riders that "try" to get their knee down (unless exploring the feel of it, because their skills have put them there) are doing it for the wrong reasons...dragging a knee should be a result of high lean angles from high cornering speeds and not because you are reaching out for the road, and overdoing the "hang off". When you do THAT, you actually get off balance, and have less control - it can make a mess of your cornering. This is more or less what I have learnt from my own experience and is somewhere close to the truth of it all. Some skilled riders might like to chime in with their opinions, as I'd like to here what they have to say from their own experiences. It would be interesting. At the highest levels, having a knee out will actually allow you to support the bike on your leg if the front washes out. I know FLUX has experienced that, as I have once - maybe twice, on a smaller scale. And racers can sometimes use it to perfection for that purpose. So to sum up...hanging a knee out, is a technique used when the skill level can take advantage of it. Dragging a knee is something that happens because your skill level has allowed you to lean the bike over far enough, that your knee drags. (the road comes up to meet your knee)...Any other reason, besides personal practice to get used to it, is just having a bit of a play and showing off...and cool when your sliders have titanium inserts - sparks!! (Not me btw) And if you really really reeeeach for the road with your knee and hang off the bike excessively, then you end up looking like a complete tosser, and your cornering ability will actually be alot worse. :wink: Keep your knees in and use them to grip your tank, there's plenty of time later in your developement to start getting your knee out, or perhaps even down on the road occasionally.