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Kittiminx returns, news and questions...

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' started by kittiminx, Sep 13, 2008.

  1. Well, it's been a very long time since i've even lurked on here, but as i'm poking my head above ground again thought i had better post some news for anyone who might be interested before i charge in with a few questions.

    New netriders may not be interested, but I'm hoping a few 'old timers' may remember me anyway - I am still hugely grateful for all the support and good wishes I've had from you all! (For the curious, i'm sure background can be found by searching, i'm not sure how to put a linkey in here)

    The gist of it:
    Finished all planned operations - had a left knee arthroscopy and had most of the metal removed, and feeling reasonably recovered from the last operation. I'm walking pretty well, no limp but some ongoing issues with knee pain and stability which may end up long term, but i'm still hoping for some improvement with more time. Leg bones have all healed, and have had rods removed from femur and tibia. Right radius has healed and have had plate and screws removed which has noticeably improved function of arm as the screws were scraping my tendons raw. The dislocated ulna is giving me some trouble (more about that later).
    The left humerus has not healed properly, so plate and screws remain in situ, but as of last x-ray in july, there seems to be some improvement so currently no plans to go back in to fix it. No problems with my vertebra, so all good there, but left index finger can play up in the cold weather - bring on summer!

    My original plan was to wait for my rods to come out of the leg before i was allowed back on two wheels, and now that day has arrived!
    So i've picked up a new helmet about a week ago, (shoei xr-1000 in matte grey - love it!), and have been out for a few rides up behind my husband on his daytona 675 - which was enough to set the bug biting, I haven't been able to stop thinking about getting back on my own bike since! \:D/

    So i've sat on the street triple and the new ducati 696, which was torture as i'd yet to regain my license which had been cancelled last year due to being unable to sit the assessment in time (doctor's orders due to the still broken arm). So at long last, i've been off to the accredited provider and started the assessment, did a practice on premises last thursday, booked in to finish next wednesday, which is when I should have found out if all's well. But in order to take me out on the road on wednesday, the instructor has already written in to vic roads to recommend a return of my license, so unless something goes horribly wrong and it gets revoked - I've got my license back! (as far as i've been told anyway)

    So I've called QBE (just as a starting point) and they will insure me even tho i've had an off, and it's not too bad, would be a maximum $1600 full comp on the 696 (less if i wait until i'm 30 - so there are some benefits to getting older after all! lol). So it looks like I could get back on the road if I want without too many problems!

    So that's all the news, now for some questions, if anyone wants to give me their two cents.

    I am really, really in love with both the Ducati 696 and the Street Triple. However, am i crazy to get back on a brand spanking new expensive bike for my first ride since the accident??

    The other bike i think might be good for me is the Suzuki SV650S, which i could pick up second hand, around a 03-04 model i was thinking.
    (much more sensible?)

    I've been thinking about insurance, when i got the quote from QBE, I told the whole story of the accident, but didn't mention my old insurance history from over 5 years ago (in regards to question about ratings etc, i just said i didn't have a rating as far as i know) does anyone know if you have to tell them old stuff, or can you leave it in the past? Ie, i've had car claims from theft and one little crash from about 9 years ago, and only ever had 3rd party insurance then, and haven't had my own car for years, so no insurance to speak of... - Do i mention any of that when i get insurance, or can i just leave it alone??? any thoughts would be most appreciated. (I'm in Victoria if that makes any difference)

    And last but not least, since my practice ride on thursday (two hours) i've been having quite bad pain in my right wrist, the one that had the dislocated ulna. The wrist bone has always protruded quite a lot since the accident, but hasn't hurt this much for ages. Left wrist is fine, so i don't think it was just poor posture??
    Has anyone else had a similar injury and gone back to riding, and have any ideas if this is going to be a big problem if i want to ride, or do we think it is just temporary and once i'm back in the swing of it it will subside?

    Well, thanks for listening, I expect most of you (in vic at least) are out enjoying the fabulous weather so i'm hoping someone is on NR to give me some input :)
  2. Hi Sophie !
    Unfortunately I had not had to priviledge of meeting you on NR before ( I joined up like 3 mths after your accident. So glad you are still with us, heaven-forbid it couldve been so much worse.
    I am glad to see that this terrible experience has not shattered your love of riding, and delighted that it looks like you will be able to once again enjoy that pleasure we call riding.
    Once again the NR community has proved to be a caring and extremely supportive bunch, and I'm eternally grateful that I have become a part of this.
    Sophie ...If you have your heart set on the Duc, or the ST, and you are certain you can handle it .. GO for it !

    Hello, Welcome Back, and Stay Safe :dance:
  3. Welcome back to netrider:)

    Sounds like your a very lucky person to be with us still..

    In regards to the insurance side of things tell them everything as they will check anyway, if you get in first then they cant be bastards about it.

    I do believe they only go back for 5 years prior but I could be wrong.

    In regards to buying a new bike to get back on I guess only you can decide that.

    Personally I would go with the second hand option just to get back into it and to make sure that your going to be ok with riding again as each time you ride you want to do it some more.

    Once you have regained your confidence back and are sure its going to suit you and your injuries again then get a brand spanker :)

    Either option you choose glad to see your keen to get back amongst it
  4. Hi Sophie,

    Glad to see you back!

    Your questions:

    Buy whatever bike you want!

    The 696 is an awesome looking bike, is aimed squarely at you and would be an ideal bike to get back on. The SV is also a great bike, comes in both a semi faired and naked version and will do everything you need to.

    If it was me, I'd get the Ducati and be done with it. Buying a bike with the idea that you might crash it is a self fulfilling prophecy. After all, as you discovered, cost is irrelevant when you crash. The only thing that is important is you.

    But....(always has to be one of these).

    You should set aside a portion of money to upskill. Whether you do a roadcraft course or a cornering course (I'd do both), you must ensure that you get those essential skills back.

    If you do go the 696, visit Metro in Ringwood, I know they'll look after you.
  5. SOPHIE!!!!!!!!!

    What a joy to have you back again, and to know of your progress.

    If you can afford to buy a brand new bike, the temptation to do so must be enormous.

    But my advice would be to get a nice second-hand bike, and 'play your self back in', if you know what mean. I can understand the frustration (I had my bike off the road for over three months while myself and it both healed from a much less serious accident than yours) but you need to consider how much the bug will be biting at the end of two hours in the saddle with your various bits of metal and bone telling you how they feel! I doubt you'll give it away, but you may find you will only be able to do short trips, and limited speeds, and it would be even more frustrating to be riding a bike that demanded to be RIDDEN and not to be able to.

    Anyway, that's an old guy's 2c worth, but again welcome back, and say 'hi' to your wonderful folks for us, eh?
  6. I'm of the opposite opinion to Cejay, but right with him on the training bit.
  7. 10,003 posts, loz :shock: :LOL:.
  8. I don't think it matters what bike you buy as you don't want to crash or damage either. A drop on an SV650 will cost a lot of money to fix. The M696 is definitely a better bike than the SV650 and will likely meet all Sophie's needs for a long time. Great bike though the SV is, if my heart was set on the Monster, that'd be what I would get. I am no more likely to crash or drop the Monster than the SV and if I have the money, why not?

    The clincher has to be the training, as that is an investment that makes the questions about what bike to buy largely redundant.
  9. Thanks all for the warm welcome! :)

    Loz, so you think the second hand option is better (I seem to remember that you advocate new riders get the most beat up POS they can find, am I mistaken?)

    After these few comments, i'm realizing that at the end of the day, i'm the only one who is going to be able to answer the second hand/new bike question, I suppose if i like the feel of a more sensible second hand bike, i'm going to go with that. (Actually, just looked up the CB600, might try that out as well)

    I'm pretty sure it's 5 years with the insurance too, I suppose with that the best option is just to ask at the time if i need to go back further. (makes sense!)

    :grin: @ cejay's post - i am so close to just getting the 696 without even riding it, but i'm going to fight the urge as long as i can!
    I've already decided to do as much training as i can lay my hands on - it's right up there with getting all the gear sorted before i buy a bike (or rather, will try to negotiate a discount and buy with the bike if i decide to get a new one)

    For starters i'm planning on doing the stay upright course and adding to that any others i find that get good marks on here.

    Hornet600 - thank you so much! I will pass on your hi to mum and dad, and I might grab your opinion on the CB600 (maybe an 05 model?), do you think that's another bike i should look at? (considering the others already on my list?) Had a look around, not too many for sale tho.

    Thank you for all the comments so far, it all helps.

  10. My opinion is always that the more expensive the bike, the more it owns you as opposed to the other way around. An SV will be cheaper to buy, service, run and insure, and you can run up a million Ks and not care, park it wherever you like without fretting, or drop it off the sidestand in a senior moment without breaking your heart. Parts are dime a dozen at a wrecker (except the engine eh cejay?), they go great and are a very friendly bike.

    But I'm a practical person - that and a tight-arse. And I think people who wash their bikes more than they ride them are weirdoes. So... Happy hunting. And don't buy nuffin' til you ride a few, including something expensive and something cheap so you can decide whether the red one is worth 2-3X the money.
  11. Welcome back Sophie.
  12. Fook mi yer right too.

  13. Welcome back.
  14. Hi Sophie, welcome back :)

    Regards your wrist pain. A dislocated ulna would have involved stretching or tearing of tendons and ligaments depending on the severity of the injury. By your description of its morphology it probably hasn't been properly seated in it's original position. Things like ligaments, once stretched don't unstretch. So any loading on it is probably causing stresses onto structures that aren't designed to work well when they aren't in their correct location. There may also be scar tissue in the injury site which can cause pain.

    It's possible that the pain may recede with time, but joint injuries are amongst the most painful and the slowest to heal.

    You would be well advised to seek specialist help. You don't want the condition to bar you from riding and possibly many other activities. Remember, 20 years down the line the impacts of these sorts of injuries are still carried and how well they are treated now can make a very big difference to your comfort in years to come.
  15. Glad you're back on the road kittiminx. I remember when your accident occurred, and was hoping you'd be back on the road sooner or later.
  16. Glad to hear you're healing and still keen to ride. My 2c is that unless the money is not an issue, I'd tend to go 2nd hand until you're sure you can ride without too much pain. Also try as many different bikes as you can with a variety of riding positions, what your body is comfortable with may well be diffferent now.
    All the best, David.
  17. G'day kittiminx,

    I was on the ride we had for you on Anzac Day last year and judging from the attendance by Netriders, you have quite a fan club!
    Perhaps we'll see you at a MR ride one Thursday night? :)
  18. yeah id have to suggest the 2nd hand option, after an off like yours, there would have to be some emotional scarring that may not show up till the most inopertune moment..... i know most of the things ive broken bones doing i found hard to do again, after the big confidence hit...

    that being said, if you can afford a new baby, i personally wouldnt be able to stop myself.
  19. Hi ya Sophie! :grin:

    After all you've been through you STILL have the bug!!?...Now THAT'S a true Biker! :grin: :grin: well done!

    Was good to catch up on your progress - thanks for that.

    As for the bike...If this wrist deal could be an ongoing issue for you, then I probably would'nt opt for the SV, due to its reasonably sporty riding position. Actually....you might need to shy away from the more aggressive riding positions, generally. A more upright street-fighter style might be something to consider for the longer term, as it could be more comfy generally for you, given the injury history. Monster would be good...as would the little streety, which I personanlly like. Smooth and light.

    If the wrist pain is something that will go away, then your options are wide open...take your pick. :)

    Like the other blokes have said...do not hesitate to do some of the courses around to help advance your progress more quickly, and if you can, get into the California Sperbike School, when the time is right.

    Very nice to catch up with ya, Sophie, and Caroline says "hi" as well, :wink: :)

  20. hey sophie!
    wow good to see you back here!

    bike suggestions - yeah buying something 2nd hand might be a good idea.
    if you like the triple, i'd certainly be looking at a Hornet 600. seat is a little lower, bars are a little higher, might help with your wrist problem?

    you won't be able to get an 06 model, they stopped selling them in Aus in 2001 and only just started selling them again.

    you should be able to get a 1998-2000 model for less than $6000.

    feel free to hit me up for questions on how awesome a bike they are lol.

    and congrats on wanting to ride again after all you've been through - that's awesome.