Hi, my first post on this forum I'm trying to decide on my first learners bike, I am looking at a mid sized bike as this will be more comfortable for me than a 250. My riding will be mostly recreational on weekends and a bit during the week, not so much commuting. I weighing up new vs. old... Kawasaki Ninja 650RL or Ducati Monster 400/600 What are ppls thoughts on reliability, value for money, cost of running, power to weight, resale etc. with these two bikes. I like the idea of V-Twin or P-Twin, hence these 2 bikes. I'm swinging to the new Kawasaki while the dealer discount is being offered this month, edging to the limit of what I want to spend. That's why I am also considering the Ducati, a nice bike, a little bit older, a bit cheaper but still a mid sized bike. Which of these 2 would be quicker, nicer to ride? Any comments, suggestions about these bikes would be appreciated. Cheers.