Hey guys, As the title suggests, i have just finished my pre-learner days at the HART facility in st ives. (hey to anyone reading that was there) I have to say, one of the best weekends ever! Now that i have done that and all i need to do is sit the computer exam at the RTA, i am left with the decision of what bike to get. The instructor from the two days there said that i might be suited to a yamaha scorpio, or another bike called madass by sachs. I had never heard of sachs (which i only just found out is the oldest bike manufacturer around) and the madass is essentially a modernised postie bike. I couldnt see myself on one of those without bursting out in laughter. But they did have another bike called an express, which looks similar to the honda cbf250's that we used on the two days. I had a look on here to see if anyone had one and there were some older posts relating to them, just wondering if those people or anyone else have had any problems with them and their thoughts. The other bikes that have been recommended to me by other bikers are the kawa gpx250's and zzr250's. The biggest problem that i am coming up against is that the price of second hand bikes is ridiculous. What i mean by that is that a 10 year old bike (in the models i am looking at) costs between 4k-5k for something in good condition, but if i paid an extra 2k i could get a new bike. I would like to spend less than 4k on the bike as most of my costs will be going into buying decent riding gear. My use is mostly weekend riding, with the outlook of getting into some club rides (like the ones this forum holds). Eventually i may even start using it as a daily commuter into work in sydney as the free parking and other things that are happening are making it look more appealing to do so. The other things are that i am 5'5' and that the road speeds that i would be typically riding on would not exceed 80km/ph (which is fine as i cant exceed 90 for the next year and a half with my P's) So after all my ranting (sorry), can anyone recommend a good bike for me. Sports, naked etc. doesnt really phase me, just want to get something that will tide me over for about 3 years while im still learning. And if that sachs express is only $2.5k to buy, then it may turn out to be my best option. Thanks in advance for any feedback guys!