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N/A | National Importing your own motorbike.

Discussion in 'Politics, Laws, Government & Insurance' started by coxc, Jul 17, 2012.

  1. I have a brother who lives in the states, if I so desired I could live in one of his flats and work for him for a few months, If I took this great offer up obviously my first priority would be getting a motorbike.

    I could borrow one of his cars or bikes, but obviously when I want to tour the continent I'd want my own, and maybe leave a second at his place, in my name to bring back to Australia (Or ship it elseware and just keep on riding.)

    I heard serveral different things regarding importing your own vehicle (to Aus), I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to find some definite answers regarding the requirements for doing so.

    I'd apprieciate any advice or links to the relevent laws.
  2. Go and look at teh fact sheets on teh Customs websites.

    There is a limit to age, it can't be newer than a certain date (as far as I recall) and gst etc will be payable on it.

    Also speak to a Customs Broker (a company that specialises in imprting items for people) and see if they have any exoperience with vehicles or motorcycles specifically.

    I know a good place in Brisbane but you'd have to then arrange for the bike to be transported to you. The Brisbane one: Ring Matt from RockerClassicMotorcycles. (tell him Michael with the GSX1400 sent you)
  3. If you bring a vehicle in as a Personal Import, the age limit doesn't apply but you must have owned and used the vehicle in its country of origin for a minimum of 12 months. Your visa status and presence in the country of origin will be checked before an import permit is issued so there's no real wriggle room on that.

    You'll be liable for GST on the cost of the vehicle and the cost of shipping it. You may also be liable for Import Duty but I can't remember if it applies to PIs.

    IIRC you will also need the sign off of an engineer that the vehicle complies with all applicable ADRs. Not too hard for a reasonably standard bike from the US. Main change required would be a km/h speedo.

    Then you'll have roadworthiness inspection and rego fees and, possibly, stamp duty.

    It's doable, but you need to know what you'll be up for in detail.

    DoTaRs website has the info on getting the vehicle into Australia and your state RTA are the people to speak to about licensing it.
  4. as per PatB post covers almost all of it, you just need to make sure you qualify, for the personal import scheme as per this link


    and no they won't bend the rules no matter what the reason, you also need have full approval doc. before you ship as you can get caught with hefty storage and re-export or costs to destroy vehicle, complaince on Aus. deliveried vehicle as per Patb should be a fairly straight forward process.

    Best to start reading the link I sent I posted, and make sure you have a clear understanding before you do anything.
  5. Thanks for the helpful replies, seems like a lot of paperwork, and not as cheap compared to buying in Aus as I thought.

    Maybe I'll just ship parts back, haha.

    Either way, I can still buy a nice tourer and use it to travel the continent, do you need to do the same stuff to ship a bike to use for overseas travel, say from America to Asia, Africa, or Europe? Though it may be cheaper to just buy cheap bikes as I go and ride them till they die, I imagine maintenance at 50,000ks isn't cheap.
  6. You can, but if those parts are to ever form a motorcycle that is registered fior road use in Oz you'll need to source a legal frame with a valid VIN here as a basis for the build. The authorities know all the rorts and will nail you for them.

    Or you could bring it in illegally and sell it unregistered to some poor sucker like half the advertisers in Just Bikes are trying to do :D.

    Overland travellers bikes are generally in foreign countries on a Carnet, which acts as a sort of local, de-facto rego document, whilst nominally remaining registered in their home country. Carnets have stuff like time restrictions attached to them and, if your bike remains in a country beyond its expiry you can end up liable for all the costs associated with attempting to import it permanently. ADVRider is the place to ask about such things.
  7. cheers mate
  8. there is that company based out of sydney i think, called get routed or something (they advertise in the back of amcn often) they will ship your aus bike to the us and back and take care of all the paper work and such. Could be an option worth checking out.
  9. with privately imported bikes, does that mean that if you needed bits and pieces you may not be able to source from local dealers?
  10. haven't had any issues with interchangeable parts, most are unverisal models. but you can look up the microfiche/part number for you bike and it will normally tell you if it different.
  11. I don't buy many parts from local dealers even for officially imported bikes, so it would make stuff all difference to me :D.
  12. The dealers should sell you parts without proof you own the bike ! (after all plebnty opf people work on bikes for others) The only exception I can think MIGHT apply could be ignition barrels / keys.
  13. bah... i was thinking of importing a 1977 java, which i bought a few years ago, there are so many hoops i have to jump through that i have decided to leave it where it is.
  14. For a bike so old, the hoops ain't that stringent.

    As a former serial Czecho bike owner (I couldn't help it; complete strangers would sidle up to me in petrol stations and offer me shedfuls of free ones) though, I can't say that I'd bother for the dubious pleasures of a Jawa either.
  15. i should have asked you before pat :) i love that bike, though it works 10% of the time. I have yet to complete a ride on it without pushing it at some stage.. i would love to bring it over even if i ride it once a month. i did contact some custom brokers and shippers in melbourne, but the list of requirements they gave me blew my mind. i also have a 1980 enfield which i would like to bring in but...
  16. I have a Mate who bought in a Harley via QLD. There is apparently a sweet spot for age to do with regs and the engine anti pollution crap.

    His bike is probably worth $10K more than it cost him for the whole process but the other benefit is to potentially get something unique or hard to find locally.

    I've also looked at old bikes (Nortons) from the UK and this seems to be reasonably easy as well, but it's about trust in the forwarder I suppose.

    There is a guy at the Ducati club who is a customs agent so that part at least I would trust.

    Catch ya

  17. Don't get me wrong, I liked my bouncing Czechs. They cost me next to nothing, handled quite decently, went OK, were dead simple and cheap to fix and took me all over the country in reasonably reliable fashion, or, at least, didn't generally fail in a manner that couldn't be fixed on the road (apart from one fairly major seizure, but what did I expect from a stroker :D?). They were made from superb materials and were generally impressively engineered. Indeed, the riding experience was a lot better than that from an awful lot of the Jap hacks that shared the bottom of the UK biking pond 20 years ago.

    But by any kind of objective measure, they're not that fantastic and, at the prices that I've started to see asked, there's an awful lot of characterful stuff out there that isn't a Jawa/CZ. Given that you can get running Brit two-strokes, which bear an awfully close resemblance to the Czechs, for not much more, with decent spares availability and club support, I'd be pushed to recommend one.

    Mind you, from what you say, I assume your example was bought in the UK where a bit more sanity may still prevail.
  18. ummmm.. no i picked up mine from a seedy side street in central India, every time i go back i go looking, i found an old BSA once which was had fairly rotted away, so didn't buy it, but you would be surprised at the number of vintage vehicles around those parts just gathering dust and no one know the true value. i bought the java which is actually in VGC for approximately $300 AUD and the Enfield for $500.00.
  19. That sounds to be about what a Jawa's worth :D. Actually, maybe a bit of a bargain. Back when I was playing with them, 150 GBP was top dollar for any 350 combo that wasn't totally imacculate or nearly new, or ~125 GBP for an equivalent solo, so allowing for inflation, the equivalent of 200 GBP doesn't sound that bad at all :D.