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Import bike

Discussion in 'Welcome Lounge' started by Rolski, Dec 29, 2014.

  1. hello all, newbie here, well after 20yrs without a bike, I'm back into it,it took ten years to wear the Mrs down, but finally success!!, I'm looking around for a bike, I've got my eye on one, it's a Japanese import 1983 model Honda cx 400cc only 9500k's, $3700 is this to good to be true? A 31yr old bike with very low k's, How trust worthy are import bikes?Has the odometer been tampered with, how prevalent is odometer tampering? Any feed back would be appreciated thanks.
    P.s, sorry for all the questions :)

  2. Grey Imports are notoriously difficult to date and harder to trust when it comes to mileage. In my opinion you're better off deciding on your budget and then seeing what you can get for that money. Don't forget to budget for gear too. And welcome back to the road, and to Netrider.
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  3. How can anyone here tell you whether the odometer on an unseen bike has been tampered with or not? Why would one bother even bother with doing that when you can just take the instrument out and replace it with another odometer?
  4. Replacing the speedo instrument would be tantamount to tampering with it. Our rider had been out of bike circulation for over twenty years and twenty years and more ago people used to wind back odometers to disguise a bike or a car's age.
  5. Bikes are so cheap these days. That sort of $ can get u a lot newer, faster, more reliable bike. Unless your hooked on the vintage bikes that is.
  6. if it was done recently, you can sometimes see marks on the bits, but if it was done a while ago, the marks may be covered in dust n dirt

    why wind when you could replace?
    winding back is free and easy :p

    you could even just buy something like this if you were keen
  7. #7 PossumBob, Dec 29, 2014
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2014
    I had a 1980 CX500. When I bought it it had 27,000kms, then 75,000kms, then 56,000kms, then 80,000kms. Each time the fix was because of a stuffed speedometer. And I'm not mechanical. I'd put pretty much no faith in the odometer reading. Like, less faith than I have in Geoffrey Edelstein's search for true love in strip clubs.

    A CX400 is a real, *real*, enthusiast's bike. It is not the bike you buy to get into motorbiking; it is the second bike you buy to have in the shed to tinker with when something breaks. If you are looking to 'save money' this is not the place. A CX400 was the underpowered version of the gulle-pump and I think meant only for Japan and Europe - I don't think they even came here originally. Also I think $3,700 is a pretty high price for a CX; I sold my quite-good and running CX500 5000kms a year ago for $3,100 - I still miss it.

    Even if the kays are original, the bike is still 30 years old and it is highly likely bits will break as soon as you use them with intent. In my view there are two reasons why a bike has low kays: the person got on the bike and scared themselves and then put it in a barn, or it was always breaking and they got sick of it and put it in a barn. For an older bike that you want to ride, you want to buy a bike that is being ridden.

    I guarantee that you will spend the $3,700 in the first year again fixing the bike - waterpump and stator are one of the top five ways to suck money from your wallet with a CX unless you can fix that yourself, or have a knowledgeable friend who works for beer (CXs need the engine-out to fix this fairly common age-related problem). More than likely you will need to budget to immediately replace fluids (brake fluid, coolant, forks) and tyres (>7 years old tyres are a great way to develop a love of ice-skating).

    Unless you have a real love of the older bike and appreciate its foibles in comparison with modern bikes, I'd spend the money on a nicer, newer bike. $3,700 will get you into a much more reliable, safer, and daily-ridable bike. I loved my CX, and I rode it everywhere (regularly did 500km days on it) but bits broke with monotonous regularity (ever looked for parts for a 30 year old bike?), skinny tyres did not engender cornering confidence, the shaft is located high in the engine and the bike will twist if revved in an entertaining fashion, and so it was more top-heavy than the waitresses at a Hugh Hefner pyjama party.

    Your questions:
    1. $3700 is this to good to be true? A: No, but it's a bit high (probably for their rarity)
    2. How trust worthy are import bikes? A: Fairly OK but it is what it is - an uncommon variant of a 30 year old model and likely of unknown provedence.
    3. Has the odometer been tampered with, how prevalent is odometer tampering? A: Using my super-powers of mass-fraud detection I can't tell if it's been tampered with, but are the kays original? Well I changed my speedo 5 times so yes, if not prevalent it's accepted practice... of far more importance for a bike that old is the documented service history.
    4. Any feed back would be appreciated thanks. A: For a returning rider with rusty skills and a recalcitrant missus an import CX (low-kay or otherwise) is not the answer.
    There are 71 road bikes (naked and sports tourers) on Bikesales that are less than 10 years old and 250-750cc capacity for < $4,000. They are all likely better options. You want to get back into riding, not into ringing your mechanic to find out when you can come and pick it up (if you ARE a mechanic the CXes are fantastic to work on, as I understand it, and I was able to do the basics on mine). For mine, as an older gent of some means I'd stretch the budget out to $5,000, spend some money on gear (say, $1000), and I'd be sure to go for a refresher course as a returning rider (say, $400). If there's one thing Netrider grimly reminds us, it's that returning riders are over-represented in the accident statistics.

    There are a few nice GS500s in that list for < $5000 but also some CB400s and cruisers and Fazers and all the bikes people on this forum love. I loved my CX and still have one as a project bike, and there's a terrific forum (www.australiancx.asn.au) for the bikes. If you are serious about the CX I'd go and have a look at that website and read some of the stories of people that have bought these bikes. They're terrific (the people and the bikes), but I really don't get the feeling a CX400 is what you're after.
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  8. We could close this thread now :LOL:
  9. Aw c'mon, I was just getting started...
  10. Thanks for feedback guys, I've got 5000 budget I supposed I should play it safe and get something more new, also looking at a honda cb500fa, nice looking bike, have to get my leg over it see how it feels,as I'm bit of a short ass, took a royal enfield for a spin the other day, it was very comfy, great turning, but the soundtrack of the engine was very annoying(apologies to all R.E enthusiasts).
  12. Far out just seen yr post possumbob, thanks for the info mate.
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