I own 3 pairs of Draggins ( 1 traffic, 2 cargos ) that I'm extremely happy with. I wear em whenever I ride, and often when going out. Once I get to work I change into my work gear ( an old pair of jeans etc ). For those of you that don't know what I do for a crust, I machine cylinder heads and test vehicles for Roadworthiness. I often need to pick up vehicles from Clients and lately have beem riding there, ( I leave the bike, grab the car, return the car, ride back ). Often the ride is only 5 -15 min each way, and I dont bother changing. However I've been thinking I should get a pair of kevlars to work in, which means they'll probably get a little grubby Don't wanna spoil my good draggins. Been looking for cheaper alternatives when I noticed some Icon's on ebay. Has anyone tried em? From what I can tell they only have kevlar in the knees and none around the ass. The other alternative is draggin kevlar 'legs'. Any opinions or Advice ?