In the ordinary week, I do ~500km of riding of which 50% is commuting and 50% is in the hills. I don't drive- the motorcycle is my primary means of transport. Recently, I've been cycling one-way (taking the train back) to work about 3 times a month from Ascot Vale to Monash Uni @ clayton. Of the 35 odd km to work, I only spend 2-3km on the road. So I'm primarily on bicycle trails by choice. The 2-3km bit of road has a proper bicycle lane too. I admit that I'm absolutely shit scared of cycling on the road. I feel a lot safer on the motorcycle. And I'm trying to understand why... When I explained this to other cyclists they didn't understand, especially considering that I ride a motorcycle. According to them, the motorcycle would be far more dangerous and scary than cycling. After all, anyone can jump onto their bicycle and ride around on the road, but a motorcycle is faster and harder to control. I've been trying to convince one cyclist to start riding a motorcycle. He is very keen and has spent a lot of time on these forums reading about roadcraft and safety stats. He often asks me about topics which frequent these forums, such as cars crossing over the line in the twisties, smidsy, and so on. I know for a fact that this guy and many other cyclists frequent the dandenongs and other hills, riding down at fairly high speeds of > 70km/h. What difference does it make coming off a motorcycle or bicycle? Both hurt? If anything, the motorcyclist is likely to be wearing a better helmet and maybe some leathers. Not to mention, better brakes, more grip, etc. So why aren't they called temporary australians? OK, so I'm exaggerating quite a lot, but still... In day to day commuting, say, in the CBD, what is the difference between them? Wouldn't the lack of speed for a cyclist put them in more danger? That's certainly the way I feel taking off from red lights... I get real anxious on a bicycle because I can't get the (f)uck out of there with cars passing around me. Obviously, a spirited ride in the hills at a much higher speed on the motorcycle means more risks.. I know there are a few cyclists here.. the question is to you: do you take safety on a bicycle as serious as on the motorcycle? Am I just crazy to feel safer on the motorcycle than bicycle? oh, btw, please no cyclist bashing LOL..