As a lot of you are aware, I am currently shopping for a replacement to my VFR. I have basically decided on another VFR. My budget is $12,500. This, especially according to Tam is a FIRM budget, one that will not be broken. I have ridden an '06 VFR (1st registered in Jan '07) with 800k's on the clock that is for sale through a dealership. This morning I went back to talk to the sales guy. Very quickly we arrived at the not unexpected result that they could in no way come down to $12,500 ride away for the bike. He did seem genuine in that decision, as did I in mine that I could not go beyond $12,500. The bike is literally "as new" as any pre-owned bike probably could be. It is stock standard off the showroom floor. Pretty much he told me that they could give it to me ride away for $14,200. I suspect I could squeeze the $200 out of them and get it for $14,000. However, I refer you once again to Tam and my FIRM budget of $12,500. I realise we are only talking about $1,500, but I agree with Tam in so much as what is the point of setting a budget if you are only going to break it. I don't really want to enter into a discussion with Tam trying to cajole her into relenting and letting me go up to $14,000, because that will only lead to an inevitable argument and ill feeling, and that's not something that is any good for anyone. Should I try to source the extra $1500 by other means, or should I simply wipe this particular bike from my mind and wait till something comes along that is within my budget ? Given that I can get a Brand New VFR from Peter Stevens for $15,300 ride away ($13,990 + ORC) is this bike a "bargain" or simply correctly priced at $14,000 ? Your thoughts ?