With events like what happened on Plenty Road last night and two being caught on Burwood Highway at Vermont South racing at 170 recurring every so often, how long do you think it'll be before the LAMS philosophy spreads to cars? As someone with Ls or Ps on a bike I know I'd like to have seen that. Without looking at it from a bike rider's perspective (one who is in their early stages), I don't know if it'd make any difference. A lot of young people like to put their foot down. Some do it sometimes (and I was in that category from 16.5-22 years of age) and some do it regularly. I think it has always been like that. Is it time to try and enforce a change or accept that's just how life is? What do you think? I don't know whether I pay a little more attention to it now but back when I was on my Ps, I don't recall seeing so many cars like recent/new WRXs, XR and S/SS Falcons and Commodores in the hands of young drivers. There were some of the overseas kids who had rich parents and ended up with M3s and M5s but there weren't too many of them.