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Hello hello......when will I ever become competent?

Discussion in 'New Riders and Riding Tips' started by Untame_me, Nov 18, 2004.

  1. Hello everyone....

    I've met some of you at southbank, I'm clueless's friend.

    Finally bought myself a bike - 250 Spada, (from Mr Ninja).

    I got some questions:
    1) Do I need to gear down, when I'm preparing to stop at intersection?
    2) When I'm travelling, I have both hands with fingers span out - touching the clutch one hand, and the other the brake, is that necessary? Thus, I always feel that I'm not controlling the throttle ....What do the experience riders do?

    Yesterday 17/11 was my first day since getting the Ls
    Riding around the block = 3
    Left turn = 9
    Right turn = 0
    Stalling = 10
    Stopping at intersection = 0
    Countersteering = none
    Feeling = What the f**k am I thinking, am I insane?!! :?

    Today 18/11
    Riding around the block = 6
    Venture onto a major road = 1 (only because it's more dangerous to u turn when I can't flat foot)
    Left turn = lots more
    Right turn = 0
    Stalling = 3
    Stopping at intersection = 3
    Countersteering = sort of
    Feeling = ok, maybe it's not so bad, but still not travelling more than 20km :shock:
  2. Welcome fellow target.

    Have you done a riding course anywhere? They are certainly worth the money. I know even when you have it can be jittery.

    Keep you hands off the levers unless you are using them. Co-ordination can be hard, but practice, practice and when you are done, practice some more.

    Happy trails
  3. Hi Cluelesses friend, and welcome to the forums.

    AND Congrats on the purchase of that Mr.Ninja's Spada, that's a real looker that particular bike....

    Now, as for the competency bit *sheesh* Settle down. I think you're expecting a little too much too soon. Between day 1 and day 2 you've made progress already. If you continue to practise everyday, you will continue to get better, and that's all there is about it.

    There's no time frame, cause everyone is different.

    If you're still stalling after the first week tho, I'd be a little concerned.

    Just practise, practise, practise, and if you should stuff up, as you will, keep at it til you get it right - just like everyone else has. We've all gotta start somewhere. Can't expect to ride like Rossi straight up hun.

    But regardless, just soldier on, and you'll be fine, just don't ever push it.

  4. Howdy Untame me. Keep those fingers off the levers unless you are using them. You will end up riding the clutch or pulling on the front brake when you hit a bump. As Mizz ZZR so wisely pointed out don't rush yourself. Do short rides at first and increase your time on the bike gradually. You will need a rest from the concentration! :) If you ever need advice just ask here, and if you ever want to go for a ride and have more experienced people along to pick at their brains then just holler. I personally am happy to help out new riders, I remember what it was like all those years ago........................... :oops:

    Stay safe and enjoy yourself

  5. As the others have said , dont leave ur hands on the levers. Gear down while braking but dont use the gears to slow the bike (use ur brakes). I would say blimp it a bit between changes but that can wait till u become more confindent.Dont worry to much , as misszzr said more time on the roads and u will get better and better. Happy riding.
  6. :p Thanks guys......

    Yeah, I've done a course through Armstrong, but it was 2 months ago, and no rides in between.

    Nothing beats the feeling of freedom when I (eventually) take off......

    Practice practice practice...... :p
  7. Geez, no wonder you are jittery - all that pent up frustration.

    True words by FalomVtr about riding buddies. You don't have to ask anyone here twice to go for a trundle.
  8. Sounds like to very standard first rides. And it already looks like you'll get you head around it pretty quickly mainly because you are getting out there on your own and giving it a go as well as slowly moving the line back as you start feeling more comfortable.

    THe above posts have covered your two questions.

    I've been helping Knightrider get going in the bike world and as of Monday night I'd say she has arrived!! I think it helped her quite a bit to have someone there to help her out so I'd suggest you come to coffee on Friday and pick a buddy to help you learn.

    Couple of the tricks I thought of whihc seemed to work well.

    Knightrider had a bit of a tumble while doing a u-turn. It seem to shake her confidence quite a bit. But I insisted on dragging her to coffee so she could chat to the guys. She belted me when I told everyone what happened by everyone had much the same story about dropping thier bike while they were learning, she she cheered up a bit.

    The second was, creating an escort for her so she could ride into coffee on a friday night. She successfully attempted this well before she would have been ready if she had of done it on her own, mainly because she had a group of experience riders surrounding her so she had a buffer from traffic and also someone to follow. This removed two main concerns navigation and fighting traffic but she still feel the achievement of being able to line her bike up beside everyone else at southbank.

    So I'd say if you find someone that can regularly help you while you are learning, make sure you chat to people so you can find out what happened to them and what they did to beat it and when you are ready send out the call and a group of us will escort you into coffee so you can showoff your bike.
  9. Don't worry about the speed, that comes later. First get your balance right and take your hands off the levers as Karen suggested.

    On thing I noticed when I first got on the bike was how tensed I was. Relax, and the bike will stop fighting you. To do this, intentionally tense your shoulders and back up, then relax it.

    You'll become a master of relaxation in no time at all, like lil who tends to slump all over her bike while riding 120kph an hour and can't be bothered.
    :LOL: :LOL:
  10. I think she may actually be falling asleep. It is a Ducati after all...

    Let us know when you're feeling up to coming in for coffee; we'll come and collect you - ensure you've got enough space on the road and offer tips/advice etc if asked.

    Also, welcome to the fold :)
  11. Welcome untame_me to the forums like everyone else has already said practice is the key! There are lots of us on L's who have benefited greatly from the help & encouragement these folk offer so take advantage of it & remember the only stupid question is the one you didn't ask!
  12. I've only been at this for nearly 3 months now, and I can relate to what you're saying.

    My first ride on my own bike was 2 loops around the block, several stalls, several over-revved starts, some truly shocking indication and cornering so slow even the fly on my shoulder was complaining! :)

    The point is though, it gets better... MUCH better! Just wait til the first time you ride to the service station (took me nearly 3 weeks of puttering around before I used enough fuel for that) and fuel up your bike for the first time. By then, you'll be seriously hanging out for every riding op. you get.

    Anyway, here's what I did.

    Once you're comfortable around the block, try exploring your suburb. Photocopy the page of the street directory, and try to ride up and down every street in the suburb (I think some of them learned to hate me!). No such thing as getting lost, only riding more!

    Next up, ride to and from the shops, and have a dash at parking on the footpath. Thats most enjoyable, but beware shopping trolleys. This should take you about 10km from home, and into some moderate traffic (no sweat - you're a pro by now)

    Next challenge was to get highway speeds up. (for me, this was more ominous than the rest - I wasn't all that confidant about trying it. 70kph felt awfully fast - wasn't sure how I'd go). Solution - find a coffee-vendor and tell Netriders... you'll get an escort, you'll feel safe and confidant, and you'll do just fine.

    People here are terrific, they'll help you out, give you an escort, advice, etc - plus they WANT to help. Take them up on the offers - its SO worth it. Group riding is one of the best parts about this whole biking gig, if you ask me - the sooner you start, the longer you'll have to enjoy it.

    Good luck, and safe riding. Shiny bits up! :)
  13. Hey untame_me

    If I see a bike stalling around Brunswick West I'll know who it is. :D

    Also, if you ever see a purple ZZ-R1100 around Brunswick West, that's me. I live in those neck of the woods to.

    I started out just riding around some of the back streets of Brunswick, trying my best to avoid the major roads. This was a futile exercise seeing that I live on a major road therefore I had no choice but to learn dealing with traffic.

    Slowly, slowly you'll get the hang of it and you won't hesitate to ride along major roads with the traffic.
  14. Hey gorgeous :wink:

    Good to see you on here finally!! and even better to see you on the road at last!! :)
  15. Sounds like you're improving already untame_me

    This is the place to go for advice, as all the posts above prove.

    I have trouble riding with my hands on the levers, I don't know how you've managed to do it first...

    But yeah, probably not the best way to ride. Although I've heard Dirt Bike riders tend to ride with two fingers of each hand on the levers...
  16. Welcome untame_me to the forums
  17. Did they have m/bike way back then Stew or are you thinkingof the penny farthings ............... bc they didn't have any engines in em

    :LOL: :p :LOL:
  18. Bob you would have been one of the bikers I saw when I was looking out the car window from my baby seat!!!!!!!! :LOL: You know, one of the ones I laughed at cause ya looked so funny in your leather flares :wink:

  19. Hey, you guys are so cool....thank you all for the encouragement.

    On Saturday, Mr Ninja kindly escorted me to a few places around Brunswick West....you've been fantastic, Mr Ninja, really brave I'd say to escorting someone who's ridden only 3 times....everything went really well, in the traffic and all.....until I toppled twice in the most unlikely places, car park and my driveway....I felt really sad, because I promised myself never to fall over.

    Today: First time back on the bike, suddenly, I'm all shaken up.
    Round the block = 4
    Right turns = 8
    Left turns = 0
    Feeling = who am I kidding.... :cry:

    The weird thing is: I'm most anxious worrying that I cannot take off (usually when I'm reving at intersection, and I'm worry that I'll run into the park cars), less so when stopping at intersection....but when I get going, I'm ok......

    Andriod.....wow...1100....yes....I'll be the one -- kangaroo jumping around on a red spada....I've spotted a L plater around that area, not too long ago too....I wonder who he is.......you have traffic, luckily that I don't have much traffic, but I have slopes everywhere.....you can imagaine trying to do a RH turn on a slope, crowned bitumen, park cars straight ahead, shaking like a leave.... :shock: .....is there lights at the end of the tunnel??
  20. Stew my dear buddy, dont go knockin the flares dude !!!
    but you forgot the tasles hanging of mah sleaves man they were the COOLEST thing to wear back then

    :LOL: :LOL:

    Dont worry untame_me we ALL have been what your going though and you will get better, the more you practice the more confident you'll get, and soon you'll be thinking........ what the hell was i so uptight about !

    Then one day when your older and wiser you can speed too, and loose your lic just as the good rideing weather i upon us

    :LOL: :oops: :LOL: