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Free Webinar - 10 Simple Steps to Overcoming Depression

Discussion in 'The Pub' at netrider.net.au started by robsalvv, Jun 17, 2009.

  1. Got an email from The happiness institute which I thought folks would appreciate being shared around. My only affiliation with THI is that I've done one of their short courses, I get their weekly email which I find chock full of good stuff, I've bought one of their books and I've got their top 20 happiness tips on my fridge!

    Anyway, they're doing a webinar 5.30pm EST(Australian) Thursday July 23rd 2009 . If you or a loved one have/are experiencing depression, I'm confident that the webinar will be worth listening too. Tell 'em robsalvv sent ya and maybe I'll get a discount to the next course!

    Cheers. :)


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    The Happiness Institute wrote:


    Depression can be debilitating and destructive. It can ruin lives, relationships, families and careers.

    But the good news is that there are ways of overcoming depression and in this free webinar, Dr. Sharp (renowned and respected clinical psychologist) will outline his program for taking control of your life and overcoming depression in 10 simple steps.

    Just click on the following link to register - https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/813849171



    In short, the program involves:

    - understanding what depression is
    - setting goals for a better, happier life
    - understanding unhelpful thoughts, and
    - changing unhelpful, negative thoughts
    - identifying bad habits
    - developing healthier, more constructive behaviours
    - improving assertiveness
    - developing more effective problem solving skills
    - learning to relax
    - improving health and vitality, and finally
    - dealing with setbacks

    All up, this free webinar will introduce you to a comprehensive and powerful program for overcoming depression and improving your life.

    So join Dr. Sharp at 5.30 (Sydney time) Thursday July 23 for tips and answers to all your questions about how best to overcome depression.

    Just click on the following link to register - https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/813849171

    See you there and feel free to spread the word.
     
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  2. Thanks for that :wink:
     
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  3. nice stuff, Rob
     
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  4. A worthwhile thing to look at, and judging by that outline it would seem to offer quite a bit of useful stuff to most people even in general.

    So long as they don't crap it up with feely-good infomercial type carry-on it should be good.
     
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  5. Its not a bad thing but if the Doctors people who suffer from depression go for help dont know any thing about mental illness it still wont do much.

    and yes I am talking from experience, I have just lost at least 6 months because the Dr I was seeing and the subsequent one didnt believe I was suffering from specific side effects from my medication, now I have to wean off the current meds and start to try a new one.
    I am just happy now I have found a Dr who has some extra training in psych medicine, and is able to help me properly.

    Rob the webinar is a good idea but it wont stop Drs from prescribing medications without knowing anything about them or their side effects, and in allot of cases just counciling is not enough.
     
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  6. Great post Rob.

    Jason you make a good point. There should be greater understanding about the side effects. Not suggesting that the docs dont know what they are prescribing, rather that there are quite a few that are reluctant to listen to their patients when they know the medication isnt working for them.

    I had this happen with my Dad. His doc is changing the medication he is on phasing one out and another in (prob a 4 months process). His doc was quite agitated when I wanted to know the difference between the two, possible side effects etc etc.

    The point here I think (I didnt have depression but wicked anxiety attacks that saw me become a hermit - all better now) is to make sure you have a doc who takes time to listen to what you have to say, listen to what you feel comfortable with and go from there. When I first had the anxiety attacks (Xmas Day 99 and then for the next 2 years) the doc in the new area I moved to gave me pills which I threw in his face. I wanted to know why and resolve it, not just put a band aid on it (This is MY scenario, everyone will have different needs in regard to getting better).

    Having been through some dark days what worked for me was taking the time to face my demons. It was the single most confronting thing I have ever faced - there is very little that scares me now lol.

    Never be afraid to talk about it. Talking about it empowers you, lets go of the control it can have over you and that gets you through to the other side.

    *off soap box now*

    Again, great post Rob.

    *edit* The PM is always there if anyone wants to talk :)
     
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  7. hey rob,
    thanks mate.
    im not sure but i could be the only person on NR (or the world Muah ha ha) that was told by a doctor to ride to help cure depression.
    IT HAS WORKED.
    i too had a misdiagnosis (spelling) a while back and ended up on meds that caused no end of issues.
    now that was one of the best mistakes i have seen.
    doctor - you're overworked and so on..
    me - oh
    doctor - take these
    me - ok
    3 months later
    me -get me of this crap
    three years later it was discovered that that was the time my brain tumour started growing.
     
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  8. It's funny you say that, I've encouraged two or three clients to dig out their old bikes from the shed and it seems to have been one of the puzzle pieces for them to help them cope/defrag.

    Bring on my midlife crisis!
     
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  9. good one. i also got to go bike and gear shopping so double good. next time i feel down ill go by a new bike
     
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  10. Valuable words.

    Making the decision to beat the thing puts you in charge. It's that single, simple first step that makes all the difference. It's all within you anyway, no matter what caused it in the beginning, so the choice can only be yours. No one can really help you much otherwise. But they can once you resolve to confront the fear that is only of your own making (or if you like, the only thing to fear being fear itself). In fact once you decide, it's often only possible, or at least a great deal easier with the help of others.

    The common alternative of constantly seeking reassurance and pity as a band-aid measure helps little in the long run. Indeed, if constantly playing the victim keeps giving short-term payoff there's added temptation to stay in this comfort zone instead of taking the decision to do the hard yards.
     
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  11. I love it when folks have the courage to post up something personal - it helps those that are a bit more timid. Thanks guys.





    Just reminding those that are interested, the webinar is this Thursday.
     
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  12. So when will motorbikes be covered by the PBS? :D
     
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  13. Of course it is equally important to ensure that the person concerned is actually suffering from depression. After being told by numerous bozo psychiatrists that he was clinically depressed, my adult son self-diagnosed from internet research and had his diagnosis entirely confirmed by both our family doctor and specialists in the field.

    It turns out that he suffers from ADD and the prescribing of the appropriate medication has completely solved his problems.

    What burns me the most is that the "psychiatrists" that he saw (and to whom we paid untold amounts of money), made no attempt to thoroughly investigate his case, nor to correctly diagnose his complaint.

    Since depression is the trendy mental illness to talk about now, they simply prescribed anti-depressants and sent him away.

    AND, it is known that the prescribing of anti-depressants to ADD sufferers is contra-indicated and often leads to suicidal tendencies. In fact, they are the very worst medication that you can prescribe to someone with ADD.

    I believe it is as result of this medical neglect and carelessness that my son made 4 separate (but thankfully) unsuccessful attempts to take his own life.

    SO, ensure that the diagnosis of depression IS correct before starting to take anti-depressants.
     
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  14. Well said. Taking this a step further it is important to find out what the underlying cause is - and I do believe there is always a cause. Popping a pill is only effective if the cause is a chemical imbalance - otherwise it is just masking an issue.

    Glad to hear your son is doing much better.

    Goes to show that just because someone is a doctor doesnt mean they have all the answers. Be discerning, ask questions - ask again if you dont understand what they telling you.
     
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  15. Glad your son is now ok.

    I have suffered depression at various points and this was my experience. On more than one occasion, side effects from the drugs that I was prescribed became more of an issue affecting my health than the depression they were supposedly going to cure. When i raised this with the psych and later confirmed with my GP, many of them just experiment with different medications hoping one makes a difference and it's up to you to list side effects to them. You have to hope they flag something that should not be occurring and therefore not a drug that you should continue taking. I understand that working with mental illness can be tough but being subjected to treatment / diagnosis by experiment is no picnic.

    For a good number of years now, I have understood my triggers and the heap of choices I can make that prevent / minimise an episode. None of them include medication (although I definitely think there are times when it is right to take the right kind of medication) and all have been sourced through my own research and with the counsel of an excellent GP. Letting people know that there is information like this out there is brilliant - well done.
     
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  16. im working on it. the PBS has helped me to the tune of many thousands.
     
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  17. They're doing it again!



    From: The Happiness Institute <info@thehappinessinstitute.com>
    Subject: Free Webinar - 10 Simple Steps to Overcoming Depression

    Depression can be debilitating and destructive. It can ruin lives, relationships, families and careers.

    But the good news is that there are ways of overcoming depression and in this free webinar, Dr. Sharp (renowned and respected clinical psychologist) will outline his program for taking control of your life and overcoming depression in 10 simple steps.

    Just click on the following link to register - https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/813849171

    In short, the program involves:

    - understanding what depression is
    - setting goals for a better, happier life
    - understanding unhelpful thoughts, and
    - changing unhelpful, negative thoughts
    - identifying bad habits
    - developing healthier, more constructive behaviours
    - improving assertiveness
    - developing more effective problem solving skills
    - learning to relax
    - improving health and vitality, and finally
    - dealing with setbacks

    All up, this free webinar will introduce you to a comprehensive and powerful program for overcoming depression and improving your life.

    So join Dr. Sharp at 5.30 (Sydney time) Thursday July 23 for tips and answers to all your questions about how best to overcome depression.

    Just click on the following link to register - https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/813849171

    See you there and feel free to spread the word.
     
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  18. makes sense in that I couldn't imagine anything worse for clinical depression than sitting in traffic in a car every morning and every night.
     
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  19. too true. been in the car the past few days and its just nuts at times.
     
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  20. Onya Rob. Every bit counts.
    We all know that I think that mental illness is just a load of BS, and everyone is just faking, so I don't think I'll watch it`.
     
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