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First genuinely positive police experience

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' at netrider.net.au started by ducm3, Oct 22, 2012.

  1. After a light dinner last Thursday, I jumped on my bike to ride home. It was a balmy night.

    About 300m down the road, I was pulled over by a couple of motorcycle cops doing routine RBT's. They were positioned on the side of the road. After being breathalysed (zero reading of course), the officer asked me to remove my helmet. I immediately thought something must be wrong. All he wanted, though, was to chat about my bike (in an admiring way). He was being very friendly and we chatted about the bike, parts, etc. He then pointed to my number plate and, in his exact words, said:

    "Mate, I'm just letting you know that a lot of cops won't like this. It's illegally placed" (my bike has a tail tidy). Then he went on, "me personally, I don't really give a ****", and we both had a good laugh. After explaining the ADR rules, he said "Mate, I have to give you a written warning for this. It's not a defect notice. You can do what you want with it - if it was me I'd probably just chuck it in the bin".

    So he duly wrote me the warning, and had a few more minutes chat about bikes in general. I asked him about the BMW drive shaft he rode, and then we shook hands and I rode off, feeling so much more positive sentiment and faith in our police's public image.


     
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  2. I have generally had decent treatment from Motorcycle cops, after all they are motorcyclists too and generally have the passion. One Tasmanian trip I crested a road bend just as he created the other way. Both of us were having an "spirited" time and all I got was a friendly wave :)
     
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  3. Treasure that memory, they're few and far between.
    It's such a shame that the plod have become a para military organisation and have forgotten that they are here to uphold the law, not act out their Kojak fantasies.
    I always try to treat plod with respect in the hope of receiving common courtesy back. Unfortunately it hardly ever happens.
    We're not all crooks and shouldn't be treated as such.
     
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  4. So the positive experience was that he pulled you over when you weren't actually doing anything wrong, and then proceeded to write you up for something but not actually fine you?

    How low our standards have become.
     
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  5. Do written warnings go down on carbon paper?
     
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  6. In my experience, and according to the cops I know personally, the "attitude test" cops apply determines the way you'll be treated. In other words, be polite, patient and friendly, and don't be a tool, and they'll be nice to you in return. Always works for me.
     
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  7. You think he gave you a written warning like a pat on the back and a handshake to say farewell to an old mate? If he didn't give a shit, why did he give you a written warning?

    Next time you get pulled over to have your time wasted that written warning will come up - still have the tail tidy? Say hello to a fine, points etc., etc.

    They are not your friend mate, and I hate to be negative about it (my brother and his wife are cops) but THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.
    There is NO SUCH THING as a friendly chat about your bike, or the weather, or BMW's drive shaft.
     
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  8. Getting a warning is a positive experience now?
     
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  9. I'd consider this a more positive experience than getting a defect notice and a fine for an illegal modification, which the cop had every right to issue him.
     
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  10. The net effect is still negative over something stupidly pedantic and irrelevant though.
     
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  11. That was brought in by 'civil servants' and politicians not the bike cop who is TOLD to enforce it.
     
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  12. I'm not arguing that. The act of being given a warning, regardless of who decides on it is not positive. If the guy was on camera, or around colleagues he may have been obliged to give a warning - but in my experience the "I have to do this" response tends to be a simple method they use to diffuse any argument around it. Passing the buck so to speak...

    I'm not saying the copper isn't a nice bloke and he might be genuine and so on. As mentioned, more than likely it is recorded in the system and will be looked at the next time. Almost like a bit of a backhander. It is positive that he has chosen not to implement a harsher penalty - but that is only comparative. It isn't as positive as not raising it at all..
     
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  13. When I was pulled up on a petrol push bike (yes, push bike) I had a 1/2 hour "chat" about the bike, the laws (and the one I broke), told I could be fined up to $1500 and/or a court appearance etc etc.

    The copper then told me I will only get a warning. But instead of telling me do what I like with it, he told me if I get caught again, I will be charged/fined and will have to make a court appearance (because the warning is now on record).

    I'd rather a "nice" cop tell me what I'd be in for next time, instead of sending me away with my head in the clouds thinking life is sweet and he doesn't give a shyt... that's just setting you up in my books.
     
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  14. That's not uncommon here out in the country as such. Generally motorcycle cops have a top attitude down here, they wont take any shit in the middle of the city or the main road of smaller towns, but out in the country roads you can get away with a nice spirited ride
     
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  15. For the record, the cop who gave me the written warning was with a colleague who looked a lot less friendly. I don't know whether he gave me the warning because he felt pressured by his colleague, or whether he had to make up a quota, or maybe he just felt like exercising his penmanship. I don't know and to be honest, I don't care. The whole point of my post was to say that for the first time in a long time, I came across a cop who didn't have "the attitude" of the typical 5-0 that I have become accustomed to, and that his friendly (particularly bike-friendly) attitude went a long way to maintaining a positive attitude toward the police. I don't expect these guys to be my friends.

    FWIW yes the warning was written on carbon paper, but he specifically told me that it wouldn't be used for future reference. Not that I believe that though.
     
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  16. I do. Police, your friend and helper. That's what I got taught when I was little.
     
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  17. imagine if the cop spent his time catching criminals instead of no victim no crime bullshit time-wasting...................
     
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  18. As I read it the OP got pulled over because of a possible problem with his number plate, he was happy with the way he was treated so whats all the venom about?
    Geezuz, is seeing something as a positive a crime with some of you guys?
     
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  19. I was pulled over for doing 50 in a 40 construction zone by two motorcycle police officers stationary with laser speed radars while i was in my car

    long story short - no fine and the police are now evaluating RHOK helmets as well as entering into discussion with me to produce specialist motorcycle clothing for them
     
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  20. No. They pulled him over for doing nothing, and then found something afterwards, which they did not give him a ticket for. Substantial difference.
     
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