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Fear of death

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' at netrider.net.au started by Iondah, Oct 31, 2006.

  1. Hi all, just to introduce myself again... I'm a 21yr old Melbournian. I got my Ls about a month ago and I'm currently looking for a bike... maybe.

    I've been reading through the form and stumbled across the "Seeking Closure" topic about a horrific accident and it scared the absolute hell out of me I have to say.

    Like most people here I'm well aware of the risks, and I've been doing as much as possible to get my experience up to deal with dangerous situations. For instance, I haven't bought a bike yet beacuse I've been taking my cousin's bike out for practise runs for a bit before I'm tempted to ride all the time and I'm holding off on selling my car so I can build up to riding in the rain, in the dark etc.

    I also have good role models, my cousin and uncle who have both been riding a while and have only had good experiences.

    Never the less the media, the stats and the REAL stories of people sustaining apauling injuries in accidents tend to scare the hell out of me and re-think riding.

    So, I'm not really sure what my question is... I guess how do you guys deal with the danger of it all, and what advice can you give me?

    I also think it's a bit of a shame this fear has kind of got the better of me... it takes the run out of riding the few times I've been around traffic because I've been concentrating so much on what everyone is doing. Still, on quiet streets the buzz is amazing.
  2. Riding a motorcycle can be exceptionally dangerous. You can lose limbs, break bones, hurt yourself in all sorts of different ways, cop brain damage and internal injuries of a limitless nature.

    These risks can be mitigated through safe riding practices and good safety gear, but they'll never go away. The best riders can cop it right out of the blue.

    If you can't deal with that possibility, perhaps a car is for you.
  3. You have made the very early steps that will take you to a place that will give you a smile that will, at times be painful...no one (cagers that never ride) will know the joy and ecstacy you will experience when aboard a bike

    Dont hold back...go fo it...

    Even though I am still recovering from my accident I recommend riding to everyone that taks about it...even the majority of people that claim that riding is dangerous...its not, it the other phuckwits encased in metal :mad:
  4. Ride fast, take chances.
  5. Dude, I think we can all empathise on this one.

    Took me a number of years to steel myself before riding. After my first ride (offroad) and realising how much fun it was, I remembered that some of the best things in life require risk, and we shouldnt let the risks stop us doing what we love.

    Comming from a recent learner, I preach riding as much and often as possible, and having family and friends who ride makes one hell of a difference.

    Best protaction on injuries is to get quality gear (not always the most expensive) and ALWAYS wear it when riding. Get to know your bike and become comfortable with it. Just like driving, you do your best when your on familir equipment.

    And if u can, get some time offroad on a dirtbike. As a mate of mine loves to say, "You can learn more about handling in 3 hrs of MX riding than you can in a month of road riding."
  6. get some balls. :LOL:
  7. Riding is more dangerous than not riding.

    I try to lower my risk factors but they never go away, I am glad you got a bit scared by jax's story anyone with 1/2 a brain would. I put off riding until I was 39 because my grandfather had died on a bike, he was 86yo when it happened. He was a man who loved life.

    Since I started riding I have discovered something that completes me, I know it sounds a bit silly but riding a motorbike makes me a better man. So riding for me is more than transport it is an entry into a world that is full of great stories, strange but interesting people and most of all riding a bike gives me a woody bigger than Pamela Anderson and a dose of Viagra could ever do. :grin:
  8. I think the only thing to do is not think about it. Of course the chances of people dying on a bike is higher than a car, but look at the amount of bike related deaths vs the amount of riders on the road. The chances are still very slight. Get your skills out and try and pre-empt when that idiot is rolling ever so slowly into the intersection ready to drive straight in front of you...
  9. My advice to you would be to build up confidence slowly. Hold on to your car, and use it when you don't feel safe on the bike. In the dark, or wet, or heavy traffic.... whatever makes you uncomfortable - just avoid it. At least initially. There's no shame in it, you're not out to prove anything. The bike is just another way of getting around, nothing more. So use it when you feel like it, and use the car when you don't!

    In time you might get more confident and start using your bike more often. Or maybe you won't - that's OK too.
  10. You could fall out of bed and break your neck too. Admittedly the chances of that are far less than the chances of getting hurt on a bike, but look at it this way; what if you DON'T ride and miss out on something wonderful?
  11. Yeah, that's really constructive. :roll:

    Riding involves risk (so does getting out of bed in the morning, of course). You can't change external risk factors - eg, other road users, road conditions, the weather. But there are things you can control that reduce your chances of coming to grief, and that may reduce the level of damage if you do have an accident.

    Get a bike that's good mechanically, and keep it that way. Make sure it's got good tyres, and check the pressures regularly.

    Don't ride in shorts, t-shirt and thongs. Get decent riding gear and always wear it.

    Invest in some rider training. Learn what you can do to improve your chances when you're riding in traffic. Do a cornering course. Realise you're always going to be learning, as long as you're a rider. Ride in the dark, in the cold and in the wet. You'll learn heaps.

    Ride tactically. Think about what other road users are likely to do next, and give them plenty of space. Try to keep an escape route available.

    And always wear clean underwear. If you go under a Kenworth, you don't want the morgue workers laughing at your scruffy jocks. :LOL:
  12. totally agree with Hornet !
    why miss out on something that is soooo good just by not being willing to give it a try !!!!
    riding bikes isnt for everyone but you have to give it a go to find out !

    hehehehe love the underwear comment Gromit !
  13. Mate life is full of danger and the funny thing is the more fun/exciting things are generally the more dangerous they are, but hey this is not a dress rehearsal you only get one shot at it so you might as well live life to the fullest you can and if that involves some danger well so be it.
    you can of course minimise the danger by getting the best safety equipment you can possibly afford which I for one would highly recommend you do and whilst we are on the safety equipment topic I see Wankers all the time riding around around especially in summer without proper attire for example the other day I was coming home and this jerk pulls up next to me at the lights wearing tanktop, shorts and flip flop shoes riding a big sports bike and wanting to drag me off the lights i look at him and just thought "Wanker" obviously he has never hit the bitumen at speed, I have come off several times and I never ride without the proper gear on
  14. *edit* double post time out.
  15. Life is for living!

    We are here for a fun time not a long time!

    [and similar corny old sayings] ;)

    No one is saying to take unnecessary risks when you don't have to but when the reward is worth the risk then if you don't risk at all you don't get to live life as it should be lived.

    Instead one is part of a dull grey dreary existence that drags from day to day.

    I know which I'd prefer :)
  16. That my friend is the best argument yet. :grin:
  17. the old saying "suck it and see" comes to mind.

    nobody knows they dont like brussel sprouts until they try them :grin:

    seriously, stats are stats, accidents happen and people do die but be fugged if im going to let that get in the way of the wonderful world of bikes.
  18. All the risks mentioned exist for driving your car, yet you do that without hesitation? Why? I haven't even had a close call on the motorbike.

    Get out there, buy a bike and enjoy what you love doing!
  19. It is simple, if you are afraid, dont ride. I cant stress this enough....

    I always ride in fear..... But, I enjoy riding.

    I am not going to blow sunshine ninto your placebo or any crap like that... It is dangerous... You can die, or even worse.
  20. unfortunately, i am a child who is more scared of the cold than of broken bones and stuff.... i'm quite happy to sit on a fuel tank in a t-shirt in the rain.... i just don't like the cold. if you have a fear of motorbikes on the road, that's healthy. you'll ride more safely, defensively, and be shitting yourself enough that you'll notice everything that's around you. like everyone else said, you could get out of bed yada yada yada...... what if i chase you with a shotgun, and your only means of escape is a motorbike hey... well well... you never know when that might come in handy, just do it.