Mrs Bravus wants to learn to ride. Might be a few more months before we can afford a starter bike, and we'd be budgeting 4-5 grand. I loved my Spada a few years ago and now wish I'd kept it, but they are getting a bit long in the tooth. A VTR is probably top of the list. She's only about 163 cm or 5'3", so that's a bit of a constraint. And, without getting myself in too much trouble, she ain't 60 kg... Given those parameters, I'm wondering about the bigger-capacity end of the LAMS pool. I've got her over her initial love of cruisers (a few pillions on the Bandit will do that). CB400 is way beyond the budget, as are the nobbled learner Ninja and GSX650F. The Duke monsters probably are too, but interesting to think about. Are they nobbled learner versions or just naturally below the ptw limit? Just saw one, prompting this post, and they look short enough.