hey all, i'm new to these forums so be gentle i am looking at buying a new bike and have come down to 2 possibilites - the ducati 650 ie lite and the honda vtr 250. the 2005 ducati will set me back approx $13,000 (on road) where as the honda will come in at about $9,500. i'm interested in any feedback that people can offer on these two bikes. both bikes feel good for my height/build and weight so that really isn't an issue. oh, and before anyone asks, it needs to be learner legal hence why i have arrived at these 2 choices. thanks in advance.