OK so like most I have been wearing Draggins now for the last few years, but quite frankly I am a bit over them. They are cold in winter, take ages to dry, where the kevlar is, if you happen to get wet, shrink after you wash them (well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it) and I have lost skin from the kevlar over the knees. So I am looking for another alternative, besides leather because leather is as obnoxios for as many different reasons. What I have been thinking is it would be great to be able to buy something stylish, and that fits well in cordura or the like, which most definately doesn't leave you looking like the Michelin man. Does such a product exist? In a style not unlike jeans? I guess the other alternative would be a denim (or cordura) jean with leather over the impact areas, but then cleaning them may be an issue. ( you get a lot of bug shit below the knees this time of year on a naked bike) The main problem with the dririder type trousers is the bulkyness which although bearable on a tour is not satisfactory for shorter rides and definately a pain the arse at your destination if you are doing much walking around. I would be interested to hear others thoughts on this, one and all appreciated. cheers.