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Do Riders develop a 6th Sense or is it Mind Control?

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' started by Mr_Ignorant, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. I’m sure we have all experienced the car in the side street waiting to pull out onto the road. We know there isn’t enough gap and we look at the car saying ‘you’re going to pull out aren’t you ya bastard’….. next thing the car pulls out. Is it 6th sense or did our concentration actually control that persons behavior? I swear I have a knack for knowing which car will do something wrong, it actually happens a fair bit. I am leaning towards more of a mind control as when I am zombie out in the car nothing happens. When I am concentrating on traffic flow, other people tend to drive like nutters?

  2. If mind control really worked a lot more female pedestrians would flash their boobs.
  3. I know exactly what you mean, I take great pleasure in knowing who's about to do what in traffic; who's gonna pull out, which of that line of cars has seen the space in your lane and wants it, who's gonna turn off. I call it my spidey sense.

    You're seeing little tiny cues and recognising patterns. The front wheel turns, or rolls forward. You see the driver's body language tell you he's looking in a particular spot, or getting pissed off, or anxious, or he's a dopey sheep.

    Right now I'm trying to take each of those situations and quietly work out HOW the driver told me they were going to do what they did. It's not easy!
  4. it's called reading the traffic, a lost skill among most now :(
  5. I don't think it's just motorcyclists - I picked up most of my "awareness" with car-driving prior to getting a bike license.

    Like Loz says, it's definitely all the little 'body language' (and 'car language'?) cues.

    The good news is that when you get that nervous feeling, knowing that you're entering a risky situation, is that you can take action before it even occurs - change lanes, reposition yourself, etc, and prevent the 'conflict' from ever occuring.
  6. Goddam you have a talent dude!

    Go join a circus. :roll:
  7. I think it simply stems from the fact that riders actually pay attention to the road - pure self preservation. While most car drivers are nicely cocooned inside their bubbles thinking about everything other than driving (or nothing at all).

    I agree, you start to see cues many would miss - Can't see the drivers face as he pulls up to the intersection; is riding the clutch rather than coming to a complete stop; that flash in the car's side mirror indicating he is about to pull into your lane.

    Not so much of a 6th sense as a better use of the 5 we should be using.

    as far as mind control?...

    +1 :-w
  8. It is eery how many times you can pick them. Even though I've only been riding for a month, all my times as a passenger in a car or riding my pushy, have given me better observation skills.

    Canberran drivers are always in a rush. This morning, I'm sitting in the right hand lane and I see this idiot come flying up behind me. A quick head check to the left, change lanes and he's past me and gone. Got a whole 20 metres further ahead.

    Or the classic run home on the Parkway. Everyone slows down a bit for the cash camera and it's 100k uphill. Sitting on the limit, I"m still getting over and under taken, but you can pick em. Same with the tools who pull into your crash avoidance space :evil:

    I guess it falls under road craft and I'm glad that it works
  9. In terms of mind control, I'm finding more often that I'm thinking (and muttering in the helmet) "Don't you dare ^&*% pull out!" - and they don't! So maybe you need to change your mental script, and hold them back rather than calling them forth... ;)

    ...or maybe the cagers are just getting good at reading *my* body language.
  10. That fcuking shits me honestly....
    I'm not sure what it is with CBR drivers and thinking they can sit in the right lane doing 20km/h under like its their right or something.

    And yes that speed camera is the worst spot because everyone jumps on the anchors even though they're only doing 90km/h to begin with in a 100km/h zone....

  11. +1 to loz exactly. Scares me when I talk to some (even older, more experienced riders/drivers) about this and they have no idea what they're talking about. "eh, whats roadcraft?" Funny, but scary.
  12. Yeah i get the spidy sense tingling happening quite often, i developed it from driving around sydney alot before i even got on a bike, you can ussually tell who is a jumpy driver who is gonna pull infront of you etc. The ones you have gotta watch out for are the ones who don't even make any body language to show they are gonna run you over, like the ones that go through a roundabout without even turning there head etc.
  13. I see DEAD People ...

    Oh .. not THAT sixth sense ? :LOL:

    Seriously, like most have already said, its 'reading the traffic' ..
    A must-have skill with todays traffic chaos.
  14. Works for me. Guess ur doin somethin wrong???? :-s
  15. Maybe I just have higher standards :p :LOL:
  16. Can I ride with you?

  17. Or you are focusing on the wrong gender? LOL. j/k :)
  18. My riding a pushbike in traffic for years was the best training I think. Getting 'doored' when I was young on the pushy was encouragement to learn to read the road better (if this has happened to you, you'll know what I mean :LOL: ).

    I'm sure you people have the same sorts of experiences, like for eg being a passenger in a car travelling in the middle of three lanes when all of a sudden you wish the driver would check their RH mirror to see if there is a gap. (or you find yourself doing a head check for them)


    Because you see that further down the road there is a car parked on the left slightly blocking a bike lane. There is a cyclist approaching it, and will reach that parked car at about the same time as the car next to you in the left lane will, which will mean he may move across into your middle lane to avoid the cyclist that has just jumped into his lane, which means you need to be ready to move right of you need to....

    ...but after years of doing it, it just becomes an unconcious thing. I think that is the same thing with the cars entering - you've been in that same sitiation that your brain has created short cuts to tell you something is about to happen, so you don't have to think it through so deliberately like when you first start.

    Kinda like the skills involved in riding a motorbike when you think about it :wink:
  19. Yeah, I had a few close calls when I first got back into riding but haven't had one for months (knock on wood), because I'm almost subconsciously avoiding them a long way off. It's actually been interesting trying to teach my daughter to drive and my wife to ride, because I've been focusing on making this roadcraft stuff conscious and explicit for myself and them. The example in morbo's post above is exactly the kind of thing I mean.
  20. ,

    Spot on Stewy! :) An art form slowly going down the gurgler unfortuneatly.

    Tex & Bundy