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Do as I say, Not as I do

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by vic, May 5, 2008.

  1. Jason Dowling
    May 5, 2008

    VICTORIAN police have been caught speeding 735 times and drink-driving 109 times since 2003. Some off-duty police were caught with a blood alcohol reading more than four times the legal limit.

    Police who tried escaping punishment by "flashing their badge" when asked to take a breath test have been sacked.

    The good news is the number of speeding and drink-driving offences by police has declined, from 245 police caught speeding in 2003 to 120 last year.

    Twenty-six police were caught drink driving in 2004-05 compared with 16 last financial year. The new figures were gathered for a report ordered by the Assistant Commissioner of the Ethical Standards Department, Luke Cornelius, which details the cases of police drink driving and speeding since 2002-03.

    The figures show police are caught speeding unlawfully in police vehicles on average 147 times a year, and drink-driving 20 times a year.

    The drink-driving offences relate to off-duty police in private vehicles while all speeding offences detected were in police vehicles.

    No police officer has been caught drink driving while on duty or while in a police vehicle, and no police officer has been caught drug-driving.

    "Obviously we would prefer that police didn't speed and didn't drink and drive, but at one level you have got to also accept that police are human beings and like anyone else out in our community, they may from time to time make mistakes," Mr Cornelius told The Age.

    "Yes, police are picked up for speeding, they are picked up for drink driving but the key point to note is the prevalence of that has decreased over time," he said.

    Mr Cornelius said the likelihood of police officers being caught drink driving was less than a quarter of that of the general community.

    The highest police excess speed offence detected was 87 km/h in a 50 zone and the highest drink driving offence was .232%.

    Mr Cornelius said the police treated seriously any attempt by an officer to avoid breath testing.

    "We do have rare occasions where members seek to flash their badge as a way of getting through a (breath test)," he said. A number of police had been dismissed for this "over the years".

    More than half the police caught speeding were let off with an official warning.

    "The warnings are issued to police members on the same criteria they are issued for members of the public," Mr Cornelius said.


    â–  87 km/h in 50 zone (2003)

    â–  126 km/h in 100 zone (2007)

    â–  124 km/h in 100 zone (2003)


    â–  232% (2002)

    â–  225% (2003)

    â–  219% (2003)

    735 police caught speeding since 2003
  2. #2 VCM, May 5, 2008
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  3. I think it would be safe for me to say that a quarter of the Police cars I see are speeding - so many that I just assumed there was NO requirement to stick to the road rules!

    Stick it to em... But it's not revenue raising, it's for their safety!

  4. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. People whinge when we take too long to respond to their calls and they whinge if we speed to get there :roll: :LOL:
  5. Ummm. Lights & Siren and speeding is okay. Speeding because you want to get home faster is bad. I think the article is referring to the later.
  6. And that's NOT what I was referring to.
  7. Not really, it's the pathetic attitude from the current crop of police that take have failed Time Management that cause the delay in response.

    I followed a Div. Van that was headed to the local station, doing 85 in a 70 zone. Why? what was the reason for them speeding?

    They are all hypocrites!!!!!!

    Police Respect = -18
  8. I followed the solo who lives up the road, out from his house, right turn, left turn, 90km/h through the 40km/h school zone in the morning. :roll:
  9. So these figures apply ONLY to those offenses that were detected in police vehicles... or are we meant to believe that errant police never speed in their own vehicles? :?
    I'd be prepared to bet that if the 'own vehicle' figures were included, their detection rate would hardly differ from the general public. It suggests to me that if the police aren't convinced by it, then the enforcement policy is designed purely to convict and NOT to convince.

    (I should add that in recent years I have been treated fairly in my dealings with nearly all traffic cops I've encountered. Not true of dirty stinking private camera operators.)
  10. What if I don't hand out speeding tickets??
  11. Then you need to convince the rest of the force to not do so as well ;)
  12. Good, hand out dangerous driving ones where appropriate instead of a breech of a mundane figure conjured up by the govt.
  13. Oh no :roll: