Well I've FINALLY got enough cash together to start looking at bikes in earnest. Originally was looking at getting an XVS250 but had a ride of two and the feeling while cornering put me off. While falling isn't the right word it's the name my brain put to the sensation and while I'm sure I'd get used to it that's another distraction a learner does not need on his first days out. This brings me to the V25 (or VT250C...what is the correct name anyway?) and VTR250 Hondas. I've ridden, and loved, both bikes but having sat around for damn near 3 weeks I still can't make up my mind on which to go for and was looking for some input/a kick in the pants. I'll be commuting to a 9 to 5 job every day this year and uni next and a lot of my riding will be short distance which has me leaning towards the VTR250. However I'm planning to do some SERIOUSLY long trips (Sydney, Adelaide and maybe Perth if I get a chance and can carry enough fuel) which I would be much more comfortable on the V25 and trips as far as St Leonards, Philip Island, Euroa etc. would be fairly common. Also on a purely looks basis I tend to like the cruiser style but lean angle can be fun too. Does anyone have any comments to make about either bike? I've been told both are damn reliable but was wondering if anyone could let me know what sort of mileage they get in the real world, how well they'll cruise at freeway speeds and any problems they've heard about or encountered with their own rides. Finally is their anything special I should look out for when buying a second hand one of either apart from the usual stuff?