*pre-thread disclaimer* : I am young, vain, poor, and naive (as that Greek guys says, "know thy self"), and these things inform this thread: be kind please. I love almost everything about motorcycling, especially from an aesthetic perspective, the sound, visceral sensation etc. But I hate the gear, and indeed some "branding" of the bikes themselves. Anything involving stickers (normally stressing the letter R), helmets with ridiculous decals, bright jackets (yes i know its safer...) etc. So now I need a jacket. I cannot understand why, when i am aiming for a threshold of only BASIC torso protection, it appears to be so difficult to find a jacket doesnt have: - armour on the EXTERIOR of the jacket - a kaleidascope of hideous colours reminiscent of a LCD binge - advertises beer (with no royalties from the relevent company) - advertises tobacco (with no royalties from the relevant company) - advertises the actual manufacturer of the gear in a tasteless fluro coloured logo on the front/back - Generally has commercial logos all over as if these people were actually sponsoring me, which i think is pathetic and delusional (no offense to anyone) - is a shade of leather other than ninja black/poo brown - utilizes what appears to be a dog collar Okay so some of these gripes are clearly unreasonable but really i am not attacking the conventions of bike gear just really wondering where i can find a "civilian" style bike gear that will vaguely protect me. I just want bike gear that DOESN'T LOOK LIKE BIKE GEAR. I will soon be riding each day to uni and simply feel that a tight, heavy, black leather jacket with external armor and a massive ALPINE STARS logo in pink will stand out like a sore thumb. I am not a weekend rider i will be riding everyday so i need a jacket not so much for all seasons but for all "scenes". Is it vain? ofcourse. Do i care? No. I guess in my formative years i fear i am susceptible to becoming a squid. I have "regular" leather jackets that are awesome and i shamefully admit it has crossed my mind to make do with "cosmetic" leathers, even though i know they are virtually worthless in a crash. I guess im just frustrated that i cant find similar style jackets that have just enough "extra bike armour stuff" to not disintegrate withing .000001 when slid along bitchumen at speed. I am really just asking if anyone has any suggestions about where i can find this sort of gear?