So I have been off here for a while now saving for my bike. I bought a bike and went to go for my Ls and stressed myself out completely getting to rider bros which is the other side of town - running late with people's stories of Hart in my head and how they won't let you do it - etc Suffice to say I didn't get my Ls. they were really nice and got me on a scooter to get my confidence up. I crashed the scooter twice. I passed my written and went back again the week after for more lessons. I ended up with the flu in the meantime but still went in and this time rode on the cb125 getting into second gear etc riding straight. I left at lunch because my flu was pretty bad but came back the next day and basically had a private lesson as no one else was booked in. I got up to riding around the course and through the cones in second gear and practising fast breaking. I am going back this week to hopefully do the actual test and get my Ls. In the meantime I took my bike (vtr250) to a private Carpark to practise however it has such a different feel my confidence went down a lot. I also read recently on the net that you cannot ride without your Ls if the car park has public access?? Not sure about this? The way you are taught in your Ls is "breakfast" (letting the clutch out in first and feeling it start to stick) "lunch" (walking the bike with the clutch partly out) and "dinner" (letting the clutch out fully feet up and then adding a bit of throttle) - however my VTR250 seems to idle too low to do this - is this correct or am I being too impatient and letting the clutch out too fast? It is a 2002 model and has a choke. I had to put the Choke on to let me do breakfast lunch and dinner. The high idle with the choke on then made me quite nervous. The bars on my bike have been changed (prior owner) to straight bars so it is a bit leant over - I found even though I wasn't doing it on the cb125 that when I went to break I pulled the throttle a bit as well (lucky I had the clutch in). My husband pointed out as well that starting breakfast lunch dinner style on a hill in traffic is not going to work. Has anyone ridden Both and can give me some advise? Does anyone know about the Carpark thing as well?