I must admit I have a gripe, I'm tired of "amercanisms". It appears to me the population of this country are now relliant on the US for its language. "Cagers" is a term I heard and read back in the '70's in US bike mags and books, to my knowledge at the time it wasn't used here in OZ, but now it appears to be the norm. I thought we at this Forum with a few exceptions were Australians. Is there no Aussie term coined for the drivers of cars etc? Although its true some drivers belong in a cage, a stationary one.