Whilst I have some mechanical experience with cars, I have no idea when it comes to bikes. I do have an uncle who used to ride MVs, Ducatis and Guzzis, but he isn't keen on my purchasing a bike so I can't take him along to inspections to help out. Also none of my friends ride bikes and probably think most riders are nuts! I have been reading over the great articles that are available on the NetRider website, but I am still not confident enough to pick a good bike from a bad one. Plus I have the added problem of not being able to ride it before buying it as I am yet to get my Ls. How many sellers would let a learner test ride their bike anway! Does anyone have any additional ideas of how to avoid getting stung on bikes? I visited Sumoto the other day and was told to give the idea of riding away if I didn't have at least $5k to spend on my first bike. I find this a bit hard to swallow. Can this be taken as a gospel? Looking on BikePoint and BikeSales I don't really think it can be. I am not having a go at Sumoto by the way. They were very friendly and helpful whilst I was there. Sorry for the rambling post. I have got a cold at the moment and should be in bed.