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Bugatti Veyron thread

Discussion in 'The Pub' at netrider.net.au started by hornet, Nov 23, 2006.

  1. Ok who stole the 'WA economic boom' thread about the Bugatti Veyron??? I posted a reply and it disappeared before it could register????


     
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  2. Yeah, I answered a question somebody posted, and when I clicked the 'return to thread' link.............bingo, no thread?
     
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  3. Don't forget the server's a dribbling vegetable at the moment, it's been chucking the odd thread out by itself. They sometimes re-appear. I don't think there's any reason a mod would have yanked it.
     
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  4. Allowances made, Loz, thanks for reminding me...

    So, Inci, as I asked, do you know where that beautiful Bugatti is now, and what is present worth is? These things tend to remain traceable.....

    {hehe I just noticed; a thread populated entirely by Moderators, heh heh}
     
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  5. Unfortunately Hornet it was destroyed in a fire at a Casino in Las Vegas some dozen years after it left me. It was a 1928 Type 33 'Strada', which was a 'Grand Tourismo' version of the Type 33 Grand Prix car. It could do 110mph (180kph) and had 2.5cm wide cable operated brakes, which made for a fascinating ride.
     
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  6. Just posting to make it a less moderator dominated environment...

    It is/was a nice piece of history...
    I suppose after driving that beasty, riding a bike seems completely safe.
     
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  7. Bugatti also made on of my favorite planes, the R100 http://www.tdmsoftware.com/majewski/rcstuff/bugattiinfo.html

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    but then i have a soft spot for unusual planes, YB 49 (Jack Northrop was a genius), Horton HO229 (Horton bothers 2 very clever blokes), Any sort of WIG plane especialy the Russian Ekranoplan
     
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  8. I hope you took plenty of photos before waving it goodbye. :cry:
     
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  9. A very interesting aircraft, and one I was not previously aware of. I do however have a major problem with the claimed performance, and strongly suspect if it had ever flown it would have been a bitter disappointment.

    The claimed speed of 888kph (about 550mph) is highly unlikely given that the MK1 Spitfire could only achieve 360mph on 1,010HP. Speeds of 550MPH were only achieved by the most advanced military types at the very end of WW2, and are approaching the limit for a propeller driven aircraft. Even Lyle Shelton's 4,000+ HP 'Rare Bear' can only achieve 550mph, and that burns 600 gallons of Avgas an hour!

    bear2.
     
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  10. from what i understand once you get much over 500 - 600 MPH a lot of the problems are in the propeller design, even turbo prop planes dont get much over the 500MPH mark although the TU95 is aparently good for around 575mph but then probably at altitude and it's a turboprop.
     
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  11. I think I remember reading that some Hawker Typhoons did some pretty amazing speeds in long dives, right near the end of the war, and some Japanese aircraft too, but a few of those dives were one-way! :LOL:
     
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  12. Their was a later version of the Typhoon designed for chasing V1 rockets called the Tempest which was certainly one of the most powerful piston engined aircraft with just over 3,000hp - though it's top speed was still only 480mph.
     
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  13. Indeed, the maximum speed of the ME-262 Jet fighter, the most advanced aircraft of WW2, was only 870 km/h (540mph)........
     
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  14. Yes, the Tempest was a Typhoon with thinner wings and a 24" fuselage stretch in front of teh cockpit for an extra fuel tank.
    The Typhoon suffered from a severe buffeting/pitch down issue with the original wings at high speeds and did not perform wel at higher altitudes at all. It also had an issue with the tail parting company at high speeds. So they did the redesign/beef up. However the Typhoon proved to be an excellent ground attack platform (high lift wing, gobs of power, excellent short field capabilities, very manouvreable)and was fitted with four 20mm cannon, and they spent the last year of the war in europe cleaning up anything that moved.
    The Tempest was found to be able to catch the buzz bombs, and the prefered method of stopping them was tipping them off course with a wingtip! :shock: Remember the V1 was gyro guided, it just went in a straight line after being pointed, and fell out of the sky when out of fuel.
    Then there was the Sea Fury, which was a development of a radial engine protoype ( I think a Bristol engine) that was fitted to the Tempest, as the Napier factory was having troubles with production of the liquid cooled H 24 cylinder, slide valve Sabre engine in the Tempest/Typhoons. The Sabre engine was a very sophisticated engine as well as being a new design and suffered initial problems with the sleeve valves sticking.
    Interestingly, I think it was Pakistan who used the radial Typhoons until the mid/late 50's.
    The Sea Fury had a fueslage chop, wing chop of 6ft and had hydraulically folding wings. The US and British navy always favoured air cooled engines, due to their ability to take damage and still develop some power (within reason).
    Interestingly, Sidney Camm had started design of the Typhoon before the first Hurricane prototype (also his design) of his design had been built.

    The final Tempests had a service ceiling of 36,000ft, maximum speed of 435mph (700 km/h), cruise speed of 210 mph (337 km/h) and developed 2420 hp (1804Kw) at sea level.

    Sorry, someone said Typhoon!

    Regards, Andrew.
     
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  15. My dad is ex RN Fleet air arm and was a pilot’s first mechanic on the Ark Royal (the 4th one) he can talk all night about carrier based planes.

    One of the scariest things he's ever done was landing in heavy seas in a belly observation dome.
     
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  16. Don't know if the Me 262 deserves the title of most advanced - I reckon that belongs to the Arado AR-234. After all the Arado did feature a pressurised cabin, ejector seats, a landing drag chute and was often fitted with RATO units. And of course the Me-163 would have to be the fastest with a top speed of 600mph (though it only had 8 minutes worth of fuel).
     
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  17. Agreed, perhaps I should have said 'most advanced aircraft to enter squadron service in reasonable numbers'.........
     
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  18. Seems the Veyron's moment of fame may be short lived (much like the EB110) with Koenigsegg expected to revea a new version of their CCX supercar (the CCXR) at the Geneva motorshow. Designed to run on E85 biofuel, power output has been increased to 1018hp (17 more than the Veyron) thanks to the increased octane and cooling effect of the fuel (although even Koenigsegg engineers were surprised by just how much it increased output). The new CCXR is also expected to beat the Veyron's top speed and although it's down around 200nm in torque it's also got 600kg less weight to try and push around. And unlike the Veyron the CCX has proven it's ability to deal with corners exceptionally well on the racetrack. Also, given that the current CCX costs roughly half as much as the Veyron, the CCXR is going to have a huge advantage when it comes to price and exisiting CCXs will be able to be modified to the new spec by Koenigsegg.
     
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  19. ....so, I still can't afford one :cry: :LOL:.
     
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