Okay, so I'm buying a NEW bike this week, most likely the Speed triple with a bunch of extras. I'm after some advice on bargaining for new bike. RRP for S3 $17,990 INCLUDING ORC Now the extras I want bring the bike up to $21,791 (seat cowl, rear wheel hugger, slip on exhausts, flyscreen, imobolizer, + fender eliminator) This price is well above say a new Ducati 1100 which comes with most of these items STANDARD. So now I'm tied deciding between because at first I loved the Ducati but the $21,990 price sounded too high, with the S3 Im in the same position now. I told the Triumph dealer my situation and that paying that much for the Triumph would be like paying more for a BMW than a Ferrari, and needed him to speak to the manager and work out a best price something under the 21,000 mark. I get a call back and my answer is 'once you pay the deposit we can tell you what the best price for the bike is' that has turned me away from the deal completely.. I'm wondering what really I could expect off the price, and possibly another triumph dealer in melbourne/victoria (as the one i went to is the only i know of)?