Only posting this in case anyone else is starting out and buying all thier kits, or buying another pair of cheap boots. I got these AGVsports boots today for $120 that are like Alpine star web boots, but comfier and the flap/zip cover thing works a little better. Water proof web boots are $300 so its a good saving. http://www.agvsport.com.au/boots/index.html Is the official website but show older model boots. Below is a pic i took. http://photobucket.com/albums/f323/jimmythehuman/?action=view¤t=boots.jpg I know some folks will say you shoiuld buy the best and most expesnive etc, but if you are buying all of your kit in one week as i am, some of it cant be absolute top of the range - hope this helps some one else.