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B double Drivers

Discussion in 'General Motorcycling Discussion' started by BlueRex, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. I read a lot of posts regarding truck drivers and how they cut of riders and generally don't see them which i think is partially our fault.

    I just wanted to put something positive out there.

    Not sure if it is the weather or time of year but the number of truck drivers who see me splitting, actually move their truck over and give me a friendly wave through is increasing and i appreciate it muchly, so always give them a thumbs up as i pass.

    Just wanted to say thanks!
  2. I have also had truck drivers give space and make life easy.
    But I have had them tailgate (In car and on bike)
    The worse case I had was on the Sth Eastern I had traffic in fron of me so couldn't go faster, I had traffic beside me so couldn't move over and I had a truck around 2 meters from my rear bumper while doing 100kph.
    Some truckies are great, and some are just arsholes.
    [EDIT]And some days the one person can fit into either catagory.[/EDIT]
  3. +1
  4. Recently I had truck driver which also gave space, when he can, to let me pass. If it was trucks that are abit lower and I could see the driver I can sometime see them checking my bike when I wave thank you to him..

    Some truck drivers just dont give way. but most that I encounter would try to give way/space to me..
  5. As I've said before, the majority of truckies I've encountered over the years have been skilled and courteous professionals, within the limitations of their vehicles.

    It's just that, given a bad one, the potential damage is so huge.

    Tipper drivers seem to have the highest proportion of a@#eholes, but it's still not high in absolute terms.
  6. We went through a period in Sydney where there were a bunch of ratbag container truck drivers.

    It's better than what it was, though a b-double driver forced my partner up the gutter the other week (just swerved into her lane for no reason, without indicating). The cars not right, but I can't see exactly what's wrong.

    Generally the bigger the truck the better the driver.
  7. If there was an impact with the kerb there's a good chance something's bent. Doesn't take much to radically alter the feel.

    If you can't see anything obvious, first move might be to take it to a (good) tyre place with sophisticated geometry measurement facilities. I did that with the Escort Valdez a few years ago and found that it was 25 mm shorter on one side 'cos of a bent Mac strut :shock: . Couldn't see it with the naked eye until I knew and then it became obvious that the wheel sat diferently in the arch.

    Or the Beetle I recently dismantled. No visible or measurable misalignment anywher, but one of its king-pins was bent like a banana. How the hell it got like that without anything else being damaged I don't know, but it made the steering "interesting" to say the least. I'd never have picked it visually though.

    Anyhoo, get the geometry checked and then take it from there.
  8. Yeah, I've got to get the discs machined anyway (welcome to falcon land) so I'll find someone that can do both. I think the local Bob Jane can (cheif mechanics a bike rider so he's OK).
  9. Yeah, it was Bob Jane's that gave me the news on the Escort. I seem to remember it was about $25 (a few years ago). Got a nice little computer printout showing the alignment of all four wheels in all three planes. Very useful had I had any intention of fixing it.

    As it was, it drove OK, in the fun manner of the rear-drive Escort (wagged its tail like a Labrador puppy on Es), so I didn't bother. Having bought it for $700 and sold it for $300 after 10 months and 35,000 kms of thrashing (no bike during that time), I think I got my money's worth.
  10. You will find that truckies are more courteous because they understand that different vehicles have different needs on the road. Car drivers on the other hand rarely give any thought to different size vehicles, including trucks and bikes.

    I have a truck license and until you drive a truck you have no idea just how much space/consideration they need.
    Just like until you ride a bike you dont appreciate bikes needs/capabilities.
  11. +1 to Cossie.

    In driving a truck momentum is everything with a load, once you are up to speed you want to maintain that speed because it is hard work and much gear shuffling to recover the speed once lost.

    Trucks need room, the visibility down the sides is poor they have much longer stopping distances and slow sometimes excruciatingly slow acceleration. We all know these things but it helps to be reminded of them occasionally.

    In riding I have always felt much more fraternity with truck drivers than ever with a cage driver. :cool:
  12. I recently had a bloke pull violently left into the shoulder, as I was passing him on the Hume late one night, so I'd have enough time to negotiate a couple of wombats. When he caught up to me at a fuel stop he even came across to apologise for not giving more time and space.

    On the other hand the logging trucks running up from Bombala have all been watching too much Mad Max.
  13. The problem with truck drivers are the car drivers.

    Most car drivers don't look, they don't give way, they're inconsiderate and don't give a thought of cutting in front of a truck then braking hard and expect the truck to do the same. So the truck drivers get aggressive and unfortunately this is what you get. Same goes for bus drivers with frequent stopping then unable to get out in traffic.
  14. I work in the transport industry, and spend half my morning looking at drivers CV's and qualifications.

    I'd say something like 50% of truck drivers are motorbike riders as well. The ones who aren't licenced seem to be dirt riders.

    I find truck drivers, by far, the best road users. A lot of people are easily intimidated by the size of the things and seem to think they are tailgating them when they aren't.

    Most of the drivers I deal with are nothing but absolute professionals. And shit a brick, can they drive! To watch a bloke reverse park a MC truck around a sharp, blind bend into a warehouse slot in one hit is amazing.
  15. When the excepted safe distance for two cars to travel appart at 100kph is considered to be 2 - 3 seconds (55 - 80 meters) and you have someone less than a car length from your rear bumber (about 4 meters give or take (1/7th of a second)) then I am sorry you can not justify that as anything but the most intimidatory tailgating.
    When in these situations they can't even see your break lights (because of there size) then they will have rolled over you before they are even aware that you have changed speeds.
  16. Truck drivers are ace, its the tools in courier trucks and 2 tonne trucks who only have a car license that are the main problem around here. I regularly drive Ipswich Motorway/Granard Road, and have very few problems with the truckies, whether in the car or on the bike.

    General rules of thumb - if you can get over so they can merge, do it. If you can't get over, slow down, give them room, flash them and let them in. Karma goes a long way!!!