I had some time last week, and was starting to get a little spooked personally by a few near misses + mates going down. So I decided to look into the numbers myself. Anyone who wants to analyze the numbers from ATSB, go ahead. I'm no trained statisician, so my number crunching can be way off. Go to http://www.atsb.gov.au/ and query the database's there to get raw data. Anyway, posted most of the following in another forum, so thought I'd post it here as well. If any of the following sounds harsh, I apologise. Just trying to analyze facts. My sympathies are with those who know riders who were injured or killed in the previous year. http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/2005/pdf/mrf112005.pdf Not including Decembers data, in 2005, Motorcycle related deaths were up 20% on previous 12 months, which comes down to 38 extra rider related deaths. Sounds like a hell of a lot, correct? But I've been trying to track down what the % increase in licensed riders is, and I've got a strong suspicion that there has been around a 20% increase in rider licensing in the last 12 months. Why? Talk to the Rider Training guys, talk to the RTA. It's like a 12 week wait at the moment to do your L's. I can't get an exact figure, so I'm guessing there. I'll prob try the RTA to see if they do have those figures on hand. But then a large portion of that would be scooters. And it's been 5 years at least in NSW since there has been a scooter related death. Check out http://www.atsb.gov.au/road/statistics/current_road_fatality_statistics.aspx And be prepared to crunch some serious numbers and do some analysis with the raw data. I was doing some of this last week. The "FATAL ROAD CRASH DATABASE" is an interesting tool. Though extremely restricted in the amount of data you can pull out at a time. Stage 1 - Remove unlicensed riders & drunk riders from accident reports. Why? These numbers are extremely over-represented in accidents. Still, the other thing I was finding, is a lot more accidents happen on the weekend than during the week. Anyhow, the 2005 summary will be out soon enough, and that's the one to go through. I'm no statistician, so was doing this all for my own interest sake. Mainly as you can manipulate the numbers to show anything. Like, in 2004, 196 motorcyclists were killed. But 223 pedestrians were killed. Doesn't that seem like walking across the street is more dangerous than riding? (Then you work out the actually % of riders vs % of pedestrians killed, and yah, it isn't). Somewhere there is also a serious injury database listing. The scary figure I pulled out was the fatality rate for bikes is 5 per 10,000 (or 1 in 2000) registered motorbikes. For cars 1 per 10,000. But again the unlicensed/drunk riders throws those figures off dramatically. And if you want to s*** your pants, take a look at the serious injury stats which get real scary. (For riders, 120 serious injuries per 10,000 registered bikes per year. Vs 10 per 10,000 registered cars per year). Anyhow, rather than being all gloom & doom, it's more interesting to go through this and try and work out if there is an increase or not, and if so what's causing it. And then trying to work out what to suggest to the powers that be to sort it out. Ain't got to stop me from riding by any means. As I told the cop on Sunday who told me "I don't know how you can ride, it's so dangerous". My response, "I don't know how you can be a cop, it's so dangerous."