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At last........but still a few questions....

Discussion in 'New Riders and Riding Tips' at netrider.net.au started by aus_dragon, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. Yippee :LOL: after 7 odd years of my wife being stubbon and not letting me get a bike she has finally been converted. A good friend of ours took her out last night on his Kawa 750 and she came back beeming from ear to ear, all she keep telling me was that she could have gone faster!!!! Mind you he topped out at 160ish round the local suburban roads just because he ran out of room.

    So at long last I am going for my L's next week, I was lucky enough to book on line last night and get into St Ives Honda Ride Centre next Monday 25th and Tuesday 26th. The next booking anywhere else wasn't till mid July and that would have killed me :( .

    This brings me to my first question.......can anyone tell me what the people are like there? I have read/heard alot about the Stayupright guys but haven't been able to find anything about the people at Honda.

    Also can anyone give me a quick summary of what sort of things you are taught/have to learn to pass the prelearner days?

    I have riden before, but it was only a little postie bike (unregistered) when I was an engineer, we used to zip to the lunch shop at the end of the street. From the little bits I have read about the learner course this should give me some sort of a head start.

    Also is there any problems with taking your own helmet to these courses as I already own a bike helmet for go-karting and I don't like my chances of them aving one to fit me anyway - XXL :eek: (more brains I say :eek: :grin: )

    Anyway any help people can offer would be great.

  2. how u going buddy.. i have only been riding for about 3 or so months now and it was not too long ago that i had the same questeions as you.

    As far as taking ur own helmut ..YES u can

    And a bit of advise that was given to me before going on the course was when u get their and the instructor ask you if you have ever ridden before just say NO. That way he expects nothing from you and also he wont single u out. Basically dont act like a know it all as some people who have ridden before do.

    Good luck its easy as all hell to pass and hopefully will see u on the road soon
  3. Just go there and have fun - i did! Realistically they don't teach you anywhere near enough, but the test is easy as pie (I'm assuming there isn't too much different between VIC and NSW L's tests). I hadn't been on 2 wheels before it and had no issue at all.

    Even though you've been on a bike before, go into it like you haven't and pick up as much as you can. Ask any questions you can think of! Get as much info as you feel you need and then some, as after the course the onus is one you as to whether you go it alone and learn or get more info from others, so you want to be as prepared as possible.

    Most imporantly have some fun! That's why in this! :grin:
  4. 160 around town with your wife on the back?? :shock:
  5. Isn't too hard on a 750 unless of course you're talking about the stupidity of doing 160ish in suburban streets :eek:
  6. i speed all the time, so i cant complain about that....its the speeding with someone elses wife that made me go :shock:
    wives are precious, and should be looked after nicely :grin:

  7. Agreed :grin: , but she was the one on the back that was egging him on to go faster :eek: :shock: :LOL: . Deep down she is a speed freak at heart. :LOL:
    We are lucky and live in a very quite neighbourhood with very long straight roads. Besides that it was a very close friend whom I trust entirely with my life or my wife's, he is not the sort of person to go doing something if there was going to be any risk to himself or others. :grin:. He is a very competent rider that spends every other weekend at track days improving his riding skills, with the amount of money and time he has spent on his bike there is no doubting his skills.
    And yes it is no problems getting the 750 up to 160 as it is purely race breed putting out (from memory) about 180 at the back wheel on the dyno and topping out at around 260ish :shock: . But don't quote me on that as I have a crap memory on Mondays :p

    But thanks to everyone for their concern, good to know that some people still care about each other. :grin: :grin: :grin:
  8. Lucky she was on the back of a speed freak :shock: and not a viagra freak :p
  9. I did my L's course at HART St Ives

    The instructor I had was brilliant, answered any questions and did not hesitate to answer any stupid questions which we had a few. He was very experienced in riding and instructing. Top bloke.

  10. Just make sure it still has the AS sticker and it needs to be a bike helmet. Car helmets and bike helmets are different. Something about different planes of view????

    Take your own gloves if you have big hands too.

    Your next issue will be negotiating with the "finance minister". Good luck.
  11. Thanks everyone for all your input.

    Yes the helmet is a bike helmet to the appropriate Aus Standard, we use the same helmets in karting as we are just as exposed as we are on bikes. I have already double checked all that anyway just to make sure on the RTA and CMS (make of helmet) websites.

    Thanks for the comments on St Ives Veilspade, good to they have helpful instructors cause it looks like I am going to need it. Weather Bureau predicting rain all Monday and Tuesday for the tests. :shock: :cry: :? . I suppose at least I am going to get some experience riding in the rain under close suppervision and safe conditions. HMMMMMMM...... should be a good boost to the confidence when I first hit rain on the open road. :grin: .
  12. Well how did it go?
  13. Well it did rain quite a bit on Monday and Tuesday so it would have been fun
    I wouldn't have enjoyed doing my P's course in the rain

    Hopefully he passed
  14. Sorry but have been away from the computer with a shocky sinus infection for the last week.

    Long story short.......I never even got there :cry: . My kid came down sick in the morning and I evidently ended up running really late. I was half way there when I finally got in contact with them via phone and was told that I would be auto-disqualified for being too late. :cry: :cry: :cry: .

    So first thing I did when I got home (apart from visiting the boxing bag to settle down) was re-book at Rouse Hill for 11th 12th July. Which kinda works well as it is just around the corner from home. :grin:

    Turns out I probably would have done myself a serious injury on the second day as I came down with a bad sinus infection that made it's way to my ears and killed my balance. Couldn't stand for more than about 30secs, struggled to even get to the loo from bed. :eek: :oops: . Now that would have made riding a bit more challenging :LOL: :eek:

    So hopefully this time round I will have more luck :p :grin: :) . I will keep you posted.
  15. The people at St Ives that I've encountered in the past have all been great. Really helpful and friendly and passionate about bikes.

    The course is over two days and the structure is kind of:
    First day:
    Theory, statistics, dangers of riding. Then to the bikes to get acquainted and sit on them, etc. taking turns to push each other around on them.

    More theory. Then practice, starting the bikes up, clutch control.

    More theory. End of day one.

    Second day. Theory, recognizing dangers, practice, going around the mini mini mini circuit, practicing traffic situations. Theory, test (just testing you can do what you've been doing), theory, done.

    I had never ridden anything other than my bmx. Only had 20 minutes of manual car experience as well, so I was a bit concerned. But it was fine.
  16. As far as I know, Australia doesn't have different standards for bike and car helmets, unlike the USA.

    The main differences in the USA bike vs car helmet standards are (from memory; looked it up a year ago):
    * Different field of view requirements, ventilation requirements
    * Car helmet must survive several impacts with rollcage tubes - I believe the motorcycle helmet requirements only require one big hit.
    * Car helmet must be fireproof (just like Nomex racing suits, etc), bike helmet does not have to be, because you cannot be trapped inside a burning motorcycle.

    Still makes sense to wear a bike-specific helmet, natch. :)

    Sorry to hear about missing out on the course. Good luck for next time, though. :)
  17. Spots, that's basically the explaination all the experts gave me when investigating the gear I needed for karting, and for the same explanation - you can't get trapped inside a buring kart (maybe underneath one - but very unlikely). Hence none of the suits, gloves, booties etc have to be fire rated, they do have tougher sections of padding and wear resistant patches in the appropriate spots compared to car/enclosed racing gear cause you don't really fall out of a race car and slide on you backside for a couple hundered meters :shock: . I think ultimatley most gear is similar however they are tailored to suit the specific environment ie: open vehicle (bike, go-kart etc) or enclosed vehicle (drag car, v8 supercars etc).

    Thanks for the sympathy, I was actually kinda looking forward to doing the training in the wet as it would have gotten me some invaluable wet riding training for no extra cost. Then agian it would be a lot easier paying attention if I am noe cold and wet.
  18. *chuckles* Yeah, my two day learner course was non-stop rain. Punishment for years of being such a wuss when it came to mountainbiking when the trails were muddy! :grin: At the very least it taught us that wet roads (oilslicks not withstanding) aren't really all that scary.