Are we still allowed to discuss this? 8-[ The new Anti-Terror laws passed last night thanks to the tepid support of the labor party, much to the disgust of the Greens, Democrats and Law Council. The laws allow terror suspects to be detained without charge for up to 14 days and for controls on their movement and communication for up to 12 months. They also update sedition laws, give police tougher stop, search and seizure powers and allow greater use of security cameras. Even at the expense of their own liberty. The anti-terror laws did a good job after the london bombings? As far as I can tell, the police did nothing but shoot an innocent bloke dead with their new powers, after the bombings that they clueless about occured. Perhaps "the criminal law system, which waits until an offence has occurred and then deals with the consequences" is slowing being phased out in favour of guilty until proven innocent style law enforcement... let's hope they don't shoot you before you are proven innocent. :roll: Crystal ball: Riders on sportsbikes being pulled over in their driveways charged with 'riding with intent to speed'.