I have owned these gloves for an hour and just picked them up off another netrider (thanks Jack). Just got home to find a anniversary present from my missus, and you can guess what it was, dainese pro carbons. So if anyone wants a perfect set of gloves in brand new condition (I didn't even wear them home) please let me know. They are going for $120, which is what I paid an hour ago. I'm located in Kensington VIC, I am happy to bring them into the city or post. They are XL but if you read any review they will tell you they run small. I usually wear large and these fit me perfectly.