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ABS - Latest Australian population figures

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Sir Ride Alot, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. The Australian population explosion disaster continues.

    For the 12 months ending March 2012 the population grew by a whopping 331,200 people to 22,596,500.

    ABS 3101.0 - Australian Demographic Statistics, Mar 2012

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  2. The implications for personal vehicle ownership and vehicles driven/ridden by people are becoming clearer.

    From the “Dense living a rising problem for car owners” thread

    and from the Age

    High rises put squeeze on cars
    Date September 25, 2012 Joshua Dowling Associate Editor, Drive

    Apartment living is a bigger threat to the automobile than the end of oil.

    Don’t worry about what’s going to power the car of the future, there is a bigger problem on the horizon: where to park it.

    The world’s biggest car makers are growing increasingly concerned about population growth and the emergence of “mega cities” of more than 10 million people.

    Population experts estimate that by 2050 more than 60 per cent of the developed world will live in high-density areas.

    And the more high-rise apartments there are, the less room there is to park cars.

    The general media in Europe has already begun asking if the automobile will eventually come full circle – and return to its origins as a luxury item.

    Speaking at a conference about future mobility in Munich overnight, an urban planning expert for German car maker Audi said the company could one day sell electric bicycles or two-wheel scooters as the automobile gets squeezed out. It has already begun testing samples of such technology.

    “Audi is thinking anything is possible, we are thinking in many directions,” says Dominik Stampfl, a representative from Audi’s urban future team. “Infrastructure is groaning under the strain [of population growth], in order for cars to do what they’re meant to do … we need new ideas.”

    Matter-of-factly, he adds: “We need to look at what can be done once the [petrol-powered] internal combustion engine is gone.”

    Luxury rival BMW is also looking closely at how its cars will fit in the mega-cities of the future. It will release the i3 electric city runabout towards the end of next year and board member Ian Robertson says many i3 drivers may not actually own the car but merely pick it up from a parking spot identified by their smartphones and drop it off elsewhere when they are finished with it.

    ''If you look at Tokyo, the vast proportion of under-25-year-olds who could have a driving licence don't, and they don't because all the parking spaces are gone and you need a parking space to have a car,'' Robertson says.

    The idea of providing those people with mobility when they want it for a limited period is a strong business model, he says.

    ''People still want individual mobility. There's no question, no question about it in our mind. But you have to find new solutions for that.''

    Data shows there are already more than 30 cities in the world with a population of more than 10 million people – and half of those mega-cities are in Asia.

    Automated, self-driving cars that communicate with each other and traffic signals may prolong the life of the automobile in city areas.

    Driverless cars would be able to serve private customers, while automated commercial vehicles could transport goods.

    Technology company Google has been experimenting with driverless cars – and Audi, BMW, Volkswagen and General Motors are also well progressed with the technology.

    “The technology exists, it’s just a matter of when is the right time to introduce it – and of course changing the laws to allow it,” Stampfl says.

    The North American states of California and Nevada have granted exemptions to driverless cars so the systems can be tested on public roads.

    Meanwhile Swedish car maker Volvo is testing a “follow-me” platooning system: wirelessly connected cars can drive in close convoy on long journeys to reduce fatigue and fuel consumption.

    However, the problem with platooning is you need to go where the lead car is going.

    Despite the challenges, Audi – and presumably every other car maker – is clinging on to the hope people will still want to drive cars as a “premium option”.

    Perversely, as cities become more crowded the automobile may turn out to be a place of solitude, Stampfl says. “Many drivers today like the aspect of the car being a private room.”

  3. please explain to me your obsession with the population growth 'disaster'???

    Australia's population has been growing since Day One, when has having more people living here had an adverse effect on the nation? I've been living here for 60 years, can remember over 50 of them, I can't remember population being a disaster....
  4. hornet for me its about quality of life. I do not want to live like the people in Japan or New York.
  5. You realise you live in one of the least populated countries on earth right? :nopity:
  6. Good to have you back on form SRA!
  7. So why are you living in Sunbury? :p :LOL:
  8. I thought last tone you were telling us that people were leaving Australia at record rates due to the overbearing police state and eradication of our freedoms. Please make up your mind.
  9. How do you think your quality of life would be with a much more severely declining/ageing population?

    Who's going to work to pay those pensions, if not imports?
  10. Mmm now thats a point !

    But as long as u dont actually ecpect the um
    Lets say taxi drivers to pay tax
  11. That was for the tourism side.

    jd believe it or not Sunbury made it as one of the areas having one of the most congested intersections and we are out in the sticks.
  12. Of course it's congested. Every time a car comes to a stop someone jacks it up and steals its wheels. :LOL:
  13. This is what it boils down to. Certain interests do not want privately owned motorised personal vehicles in the future as it does not fit their plans and this act supports this. I don't believe our elected representatives were aware of this when they voted it in. The bureaucracy usually plans decades ahead.

    The Victorian Road Management Act 2004 does not specify cars or motorcycles. We may be covered in (18) (f) but having us recognised specifically will ensure motorcycles exist in the future. It is paramount that motorcycles are included into planning laws. If we succeed in doing this many of our opponents will give up their fight.

    Lobbying our elected state representatives to change (18) and include the following will be a major step forward.

    (f) motorcycles on specified motorcycle roads;
    (g) any other mode of transport on specified
    roads for that mode of transport.


    Division 1—Coordination of road management

    20 Principal object and management principles

    (1) The principal object of road management is to
    ensure that a network of roads is provided
    primarily for the movement of persons and goods
    as part of an integrated transport system and that
    road reserves are available for other appropriate

    (1A) In giving effect to the principal object of road
    management consistent with the transport system
    objectives under the Transport Integration Act
    2010, the road network is to be managed to reflect
    the priorities of different modes of transport
    having regard to the intended function or
    functions of different parts of the road network.

    (18) Subject to subsection (1C), priority is to be given
    to the following modes of transport in respect of
    the specified roads for that mode of transport—
    (a) trams on specified tram roads;
    (b) buses on specified bus roads;
    (c) bicycles on specified bicycle roads;
    (d) pedestrians on specified pedestrian roads;
    (e) freight on specified freight roads;
    (f) any other mode of transport on specified
    roads for that mode of transport.

    (1C) Subsection (18) has effect—
    (a) without limiting the generality of
    subsection (1A); and

    (b) to the extent that it is reasonably practicable
    having regard to the works and infrastructure
    management principles.

    (2) The following principles apply in respect of the
    management of works and infrastructure under
    this Act—
    (a) the minimisation of road safety hazards;
    (b) the avoidance or minimisation of damage or
    disruption to infrastructure on roads;
    (c) the avoidance or minimisation of disruption
    to plans for the development of road
    infrastructure and non-road infrastructure;
    (d) the avoidance or minimisation of disruption
    to traffic;
    (d) the priority of different modes of transport
    on specified roads;
    (e) the avoidance or minimisation of disruption
    to the effective and efficient delivery of
    utility and public transport services;
    (f) the efficient use of resources of road
    authorities and infrastructure managers and
    the minimisation of cost to the community of
    infrastructure and services.

  14. Looks like justus post lol
  15. It’s not a quote it’s a proposal. I’ll edit the post and highlight the paragraph.
  16. Whilst we have a low population density, most of our population live in small pockets around the coastline. Just need better urban planning to cater for the growth. (one that includes motorcycles in any transport policy :D)
  17. Transurban talks tolls the day after tunnel chaos
    Date October 4, 2012 - 12:21PM Georgia Wilkins

    CityLink operator Transurban says it will explore overhauling pricing — which could involve upping peak hour tolls — a day after it shut down Melbourne's two busiest road tunnels due to a computer malfunction.

    Melbourne's CityLink tunnel network was forced to close early yesterday morning, causing the average 120,000 vehicles that use the roads everyday to be re-routed into city gridlock.

    Speaking at the company's annual general meeting this morning, Transurban chairman Lindsay Maxsted said he regretted the closure, but defended the company's overall performance.

    "Yesterday's tunnel outage was completely unacceptable for all concerned. However, your board believes yesterday's events are a truly exceptional circumstance — the first such event in 13 years of operations."

    He told shareholders that "more efficient" pricing models were a way of addressing the effects of traffic congestion.

    "The cost of congestion to the Australian economy alone is expected to be about $20 billion by 2020," he said.

    "More efficient network pricing models may be [a] potential option to consider."

    He said new pricing models would be "controversial for the road network" but that the "time is quickly coming where we must face concepts such as distance-based tolls, peak hour pricing or demand pricing."

    "Tolling could include off-peak discounts as much as peak period increases."

    The meeting comes at an unfortunate time for Transurban, which — on top of yesterday's meltdown — faced some concern from shareholders over generous executive salaries at its annual general meeting this morning.

    Former chief executive Chris Lynch, who stepped down in July, received a total remuneration package of $7.36 million in the 2011-12 financial year - up from $6.75 million the year before, according to the company's full-year reports.

    Australian Shareholders' Association chief executive Vas Kolesnikoff said that the salary was exceptionally large given the company's performance.
    "Seven million is a large amount of money for collecting tolls," he said.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/t...unnel-chaos-20121004-270zl.html#ixzz28JVxXWAZ
  18. Jobless rate jump - did the RBA know?
    Date October 11, 2012 - 12:40PM Michael Pascoe

    The first question that might spring to mind upon reading that the seasonally adjusted unemployment rate jumped to 5.4 per cent last month is: Did the RBA already know when it cut rates last week?

    The second question might be: how credible are the inevitable scary headlines generated by the number given the apparent contradictions within today’s statistics?

    Just dealing with the flighty seasonally adjusted figures first (only because they’re the ones most of the commentary runs on), the immediate paradox is a sharp rise in the unemployment rate and the number of unemployed (38,800) despite a lift in aggregate hours worked, a strong rise in full-time employment of 32,100 and a not-too-shabby increase in overall employment of 14,500.

    The easy answer is a 0.2 rise in the participation rate to 65.2 per cent, but that’s just a mathematical outcome. Noting that the labour force jumped by 53,400 last month begins to tell us something more.

    I can’t prove it, but my suspicion is that we’re starting the see the impact of rather sharply rising net overseas migration pushing up our population growth rate again.

    The key reason for the unemployment rate remaining steady this year despite a soft labour market has been demographic – the working age population hasn’t been doing much either, as explained in the excellent speech by RBA deputy governor Philip Lowe on Tuesday. Net overseas migration running at close to 25 per cent above last year’s numbers ends up making all sorts of differences.

    Lowe’s speech was amazing timing – a considered, calming view of our labour market just two days before the a headline-grabbing rise in unemployment.
    But before running away with the headlines, it’s also worth remembering that these are the seasonally adjusted numbers – the ones that often jump around, don’t mean all that much on a monthly basis and have proven utterly unforecastable.

    Unfortunately, the ABS trend series can tell a worse story despite offering a lower unemployment rate of 5.3 per cent – statistics are like that.

    The August trend series unemployment was revised up from 5.2 to 5.3 per cent, meaning no growth in the unemployment rate in September and the participation rate remained steady for another month on 65.2 per cent.

    However, the trend numbers found no growth in employment, just a marginal loss of 1,000 jobs and a rise in the number of the unemployed of 5,500. Again it can only be my supposition, but maybe the trend series isn’t capturing the population growth impact yet.

    Inevitably the rise in the headline rate will increase the noise about further interest rate cuts, but the trend series still says nothing much has changed.

    The RBA has been describing the unemployment rate as “five-and-a-quarter” per cent for most of this year and that’s pretty much still the story.

    The labour market remains soft and has softened a bit more. As Philip Lowe pointed to on Tuesday, all those public sector jobs being lost and the weaker manufacturing sector will out. But as Lowe also instructed, our labour market has functioned and continues to function rather better than anyone might have expected. And in the global context, the market isn’t soft at all.

    It has been the official family’s forecast for the unemployment rate to tick up this financial year – now the question is how tolerant the RBA will be about seeing its forecast be proven correct, compared with the amount of action it might take to prevent that, to keep the rate closer to 5.25 per cent.

    With Canberra’s only bi-partisan agreement being to run contractionary fiscal policy is search of a budget surplus and state governments all hitting fiscal walls, the RBA has become the labour market’s sole parent.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/t...he-rba-know-20121011-27epn.html#ixzz28xm2kL9N

    Australian Bureau of Statistics link.