So the deal is I'm only working part time because with my wife studying and us having two children in daycare, we are actually better off financially than if I was working full time. Sounds messed up, but thats Australia's social security system for ya. Can't beat 'em, might as well join 'em. So spare cash is not exactly flowing out our ears. Because Ive only just done q-ride and got my RE's very recently, a mate said maybe an 8 grand xvs isnt the best bike to start on anyway, due to the real possibility of me banging it up at some point while I'm honing my skills. Now there are LOADs of used Yamaha and Suzuki 250's for sale at around 3 - 4 thousand, but I did q-ride on a 450 and was still looking for one more gear at the top. (not sure if its relevant but I'm 6'1 and 100kg give or take). But at the end of the day a 250 would nonetheless be a bike to continue learning on and riding until I'm back to working full time (in 2015!!!) But anyway, I thought I'd throw the question out there: Do I save up say 3 grand and get a run-in 250 to knock about on, or do I put that 3 grand in the bank and wait until I can afford the xvs 650? Which would mean very little riding in the meantime, but a kick arse cruiser at the end of it... Just interested to know what y'all reckon. Cheers.