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$280 for 6k service - ER-6nL

Discussion in 'Technical and Troubleshooting Torque' at netrider.net.au started by catch-22, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. This is what I was quoted from a popular Sydney specialist that gets top reviews throughout this site. I'm yet to call others. Checked the book and all that's involved is an oil change - all of 2 litres. Nothing more. Bike is injected so no tuning of carbies etc. Something doesn't add up...


     
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  3. Welcome to the world of bikes, fun but not cheap to run.

    Even at trade prices for me 2x plugs / filter and oil costs around $80.00
    then ad an average of $75hr Labor
    So it don't take long to rack up $300.00

    It was over 6 years ago that I put mine in to get a full service and to get carbys sync'd etc ( didn't have the time to do it all myself and wanted it all checked and right before moving )

    Carb's sync'd ... was spot on anyway
    Plus full service and check over
    $1280.00

    That was a 70k service on a VTR1000
     
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  4. No valve clearance check at 6k?
     
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  5. Mines in for a 12000k service on monday..expect to pay no more than $250, oil and filter,plugs,valves and carby balance. Thats for a GS500..I think you can get better value if you shop around.
     
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  6. call around for sure :) i could have gotten that for about $150 - $250, depending.

    have you tried alexandria motorcycle wreckers? they do servicing also, and they're damned good.
     
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  7. First valve clearance check on the er6n is @ 24k.

    So all it says in the book is oil and filter at which I plan on doing every 3k. Not even the air filter is changed at this service. No air filter @ 6k - in dusty australia....think I'll do this as well.

    I usually service all my cars and other myself but wanted to retain someone stamping the book on this one. But for that cost I will have to reconsider..

    Thanks Holly, will try them.
     
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  8. With many bikes, (smaller/simpler ones generally) if you can do the work yourself, if you put away the cost of professional servicing for the duration of the warranty, you may well find you've got enough to cover the cost of a fairly major failure or two.

    Not necessarily a recommended approach (though I've used it myself successfully), but one worth doing the sums on at least.
     
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  9. Yeah well said Pat. And a proposition I will consider.

    Anyone know what Lloyd Penn charge for an oil drop and filter?
     
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  10. It all depends on how mechanically minded and mechanically keen you are - about half the riders I ride with are either not mech minded, keen or just short on time, so self servicing isn't an option.

    However, if you are mech minded and keen, the motorbike is heaven on a stick when it comes to working on them - well generally anyway for I have a Honda so everything is easier and less maintenance again.

    I got into motorbikes 2 years ago not just for riding, but so I can work on them too, since cars these days are so wrapped up in gizmos there's not much you can do.

    So if you're willing to have a go at working on your bike and do at least some of the basic maintenance servicing, download a service manual and go from there. It'll be one of the most enjoyable hobbies you'll develop - nothing like tweaking the beast in a warm sealed garage on a cold or wet day .... of course you'll need to setup a workshop for yourself, but that doesn't necessarily require massive investments in tools, but just basic good quality ones.

    For major things like valve clearances, you may have mates who have an even more elaborate workshop - it's not a matter of stretching the friendship, but sharing the work and really learning about how the engine works. Or just get a good service workshop to do the major items like valve clearances - you don't do them that often anyway.

    But if you're mech minded, have a go working on your own bike ... a great feeling!
     
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  11. I agree, it's not an approach that suits everyone. Not only do you need to be able to do the servicing yourself but, to make the sums work, you've also got to be prepared to fix whatever failure might arise or, at least, do most of the work and only farm out really specialist tasks like machining, alloy welding, crank rebuilding etc.

    It worked for me because I've been fiddling with machinery since way back, I have a fairly well equipped workshop and my DR has no possible failure mode which frightens me. My decision may have been different given a different bike, the need to work on it in the street or more disposable income/less time to devote to the bike.

    Ditching the warranty is not a decision to be taken lightly and should only be taken after a realistic appraisal of the costs/benefits.
     
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  12. Did you just agree on your own post?

    You quoted yourself and said "I agree" . I did this: :rofl:
     
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  13. Even if you do the servicing yourself you still have some rights with regards to genuine product defects.
     
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  14. I forgot you mentioned it's under warranty ... in that case no I wouldn't service it myself until it's out of warranty, aside from perhaps an oil and filter change between services. That's one aspect discouraging me from getting a new Daytona 675, because I know my 2002 $5k F4i does 90% of what the 675 does (and probably much better in other areas like touring comfort), but I can service it myself.

    Ask around for decent well priced service shop (as opposed to a dealership) - you'll eventually find one.
     
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  15. Nope, I agreed with this bit which wasn't mine:-

     
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  16. Spot on.

    'Major' doesn't cover that. 'Major' would include replacing piston rings or installing a new camshaft. Valve clearance can be done at home very easily, once you know how. A good Stanley feeler gauge will run you about $20 from the local automotive store, and using it isn't hard - although I would highly recommend you are guided through your first DIY valve clearances by a mate who knows how to use them.

    Anyway, definitely work on your bike yourself. An oil change is easy and spark plugs aren't a big deal either. Certainly the chain can be adjusted by the home mechanic, and if you want to do the valves yourself then you can do that, too.

    Cheers - boingk

    PS: Don't bother with replacing OEM air filters. I highly recommend you invest in a Unifilter (or similar aftermarket) filter for your bike. Visit unifilter.com.au and check out their online store - filters for most bikes can be had for $25 to $50 and are washable & reusable.
     
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  17. Cheers all. Never had an issue with the mechanics of it all - have built a few motors in my time......it was the cost for an oil change that can be done in 15 mins. And yeah, I need to ensure the book is continued to be stamped and warranty remains valid.

    Anyway, called a more local workshop who specialise in Jap bikes and spoke with the owner who immediately made me want to take my bike to them. He was straight up telling me I could even just wait around while they did it. AND...he went through all they do including chain cleaning and setting (which it needs).

    So am happy that I cancelled my original appointment. I'd have felt sick for weeks spending the amount mentioned....:)
     
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  18. Good to hear mate, and the amount you mentioned for a basic service is definitely what I'd call over the top. I mean, what'd they do, slip $200 under the seat? :D

    In any case, it never hurts to ring around and have a chat with others who offer the same service. I've always tended to do things myself, mainly because I couldn't afford dealership servicing and partly because I've had a few exotic/older bikes that I didn't really trust being done by others.

    Cheers - boingk
     
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  19. If you can adjust your chain,clutch cable..change plugs, oil and filter you can save a small fortune each year. If you are not able or confident to adjust valves or balance carbies you can ask to have that looked at..so servicing costs can be kept minimal.
    At the moment I have to have mine done at a workshop for the warranty to remain valid. After that it expires I'll only take it in for stuff that I don't know how to do.
     
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