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2012 concept bike build, my Honours year Industrial Design project!

Discussion in 'Modifications and Projects' started by JamesE30, Aug 17, 2011.

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    Hi guys! I thought it might be a good idea to post my final year Industrial Design project online for both my own benefit and to share it with those of you who might be interested. I hope you enjoy watching the progress and even though I'm already well into the project, I hope to get some valuable feedback from the people for which this bike is designed!

    (this will be a long post, so if you're just after pictures scroll down! (y) )
    Also please keep in mind it will probably take me a couple days to post my progress up to where I am now haha

    First a bit about myself,

    My name is James Roberton, I'm 22 and I'm a fourth year Industrial Design student at Monash University in Victoria, Australia. I've posted on here a couple times but never introduced myself.
    I've been into cars and bikes all my life and gone through phases of liking each more than the other. I drive a 1985 BMW e30 323i. I absolutely love it and hope i never have to sell it. Put plenty of hours into it and loads of cash.
    Anyway here's a quick snap for you!


    I've also always had a fascination with motorcycles however only recently started riding on the road. I've had a couple of yamaha dirt bikes, a Suzuki DR200, Suzuki bandit 250, and still have a Suzuki RMX250 (Which will be for sale soon!)
    Here is the bandit as it was when I sold it:


    So I've always been into classic cars and bikes, automotive styling, modifying/restoring and starting projects of all sorts. I was a keen designer at school and It made sense I would end up in Industrial design, specialising in transportation design. I love the course, It's challenging and very time consuming but the results of hard work are extremely satisfying.

    I hope to become either a creative designer or Clay modeller/fabricator in the automotive industry. Though I'm leaning towards clay modelling since I love the hands on approach to design in three dimensions.
    Here's an example of a speed form I modelled in clay last semester:


    As I said it will take me a while to post my progress so far so bear with me!

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  2. So now about the project! Our final year of Industrial Design is run as an Honours year, whereby we have to develop our own brief for a project the runs the full length of the year. There are about 6 of us doing transport design projects. Of those, I am the only one doing a motorcycle, and also the only person planning to do a full size 1:1 scale transport model.
    I should point out this is an individual project and is not run in groups or pairs as in some other universities.

    We must present our work at the end of the year including our final model and our Critical Justification, as well as a lot of deliverables along the way.
    The CJ includes basically all of our research and development, as well as our task clarification, product design specification, manufacturing process, material, colour and trim, basically everything from the initial brief through the design process to manufacture.

    Ill save all the boring research from you and give you the cliffs:

    I was unhappy with the range of lightweight, aesthetically appealing, affordable motorcycles available on the market to learner riders. A lot of fully faired LAMS bikes are disguised to look a lot bigger than they really are, and most smaller naked bikes have almost no input to design at all. There is nothing on the market today that utilises the fact it has a smaller capacity engine to create a lightweight bike with a truly user centred rider experience, without being disguised as anything else.
    I wanted to design a bike that reflected the ideals of 1950's Rocker culture and represented freedom, simplicity, and independence, as well as being exciting and a little bit bad ass :p

    Thus the project is named ROCK ON!
    A modern day cafe racer if you please:D


    At no time in any of the following posts is the design finished unless otherwise stated.

    So from here, after copious amounts of market research and benchmarking we had to come up with three concepts, and here they are:




    To be totally honest I wasn't happy with any of these designs, it was more the themes of each concept I was focusing on. The Direction I decided to pursue involved a combination themes from each concept. Though if I had to be more specific it would be Concept 3 i was mostly focused on.

    So on went the sketching.. and I mean a lot of sketching. I literally have 100's of pages haha
    Here is a sample of some of the more important sketches for my direction:



    As you can see from these sketches, I'm running with this theme of having a low slung hood that covers the top of the forks, and has the handle bars wrap out from underneath. I wanted to visually lengthen the bike since the wheel base is shortened and the seat hight is relatively high. This is keeping in tune with classic cafe racer linear styling.
    However a lot of these sketches were relating too much to a retro graphic, and I wanted to take the project in a more contemporary direction. Keeping the ideals of the cafe racer without literally interpreting the design aesthetic.

    From Here I made a full sized mock up model from cardboard just to get proportions and dimensions correct. I then took the model back into CAD and started modelling the new design.


    More to come tomorrow!
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  3. Ok so skip forward a bit and this brings us up to about mid year.
    At the end of first semester we had to submit our Product Design specification (a lot of technical data required to meet standards etc) as well as information of materials and manufacturing process and functional requirements, size envelope and constraints etc. If anyone cares about any of this or wants to know anything specific let me know and I'll post it up! But For now ill save you all the text!

    By mid year we are not required to have our final design, in fact it is expected that the design is nowhere near complete at this stage. This is only the halfway mark. So this is why the renderings don't contain smaller, finer details, and components that ad realism. At this stage we are focusing on the overall direction of the project and the proportions, themes and function of the design.

    We also had to make a 10minute presentation of our progress. I'll let the pictures do the talking but basically these are the more interesting slides from the presentation.




    The manufacturing process involves Selective Laser Sintering, effectively a relatively new form of 3D printing.



    Since these are just slides from my presentation, there is not a huge amount of text,

    So that's where I was end of semester one. I know my post is pretty vague since I've only uploaded a few slides so any questions just ask!

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  4. Hello James, nice to have you along. You have an interesting sense of style. I'm going to be watching developments with interest.
  5. Looks awesome thus far, good luck with the project.
  6. Good luck wth the project ans congrats for taking on such a challenge! lots of chrome or polished alloy? pics seem [to me] mish mash of duc , buell, bmw ideas, they look good!! well done so far..
  7. Great stuff James. Good onya for posting and sharing it with us.

    I am a bit of a fan of concept 2 myself. It has a bit of a Britten-esque feel to it and in terms of avant guarde motorcycle design, he was the master! and i dont know, but I figure he was pursuing simillar design elements to your own brief.

    The low slung hood concept (particulalry the gold drawing) remind of a Bimota Mantra, which in my book takes a prize as being one of the ugliest things to ever earn a Bimota badge! Data free observation of course!

    Hey, good luck with it and keep us updated, (your intro graphic is brilliant by the way!)
  8. I am envious of your skills and talents
  9. Keep up the good work james, and keep us posted ;)
  10. Thats some good work james. As a fellow IDer (in the industry) I can tell you that it is good to see something a bit different from the standard monash-style auto project.
    I think you're designs are really getting there and the only thing that needs fine-tuning are the proportions. There is a very good article by glynn kerr (high profiled motorcycle designer) in the latest 2wheels all about proportions. Worth a read.
  11. Love your work. I've always been fascinated with Design & Art so will be following this post with much interest.

    Personally I liked concept 2 but the others have a lot of potential as well. Keep posting.
  12. Wow looks great. Will follow your progress. Good luck.
  13. Nice to see people innovating...
    But please do yourself a favour and run the spell-checker over your presentation, especially the "Agility, Simplicity, Efficiency" slide
  14. I have to agree with Nitekreeper.
    That said:
    Looks great! But maybe a little too futuristic-looking for my tastes. Still, if this turns into a real motorcycle, I'm going to bet it'll be an extremely popular choice if the price is right.
  15. I'm loving this thread. Keep it coming.
  16. Awesome mate!! They look fantastic!
  17. I LOVE concept 2.

    That to me, looks exactly like what a bike of the future would look like!!!
  18. are you planning to build a rideable version?
  19. Thankyou! Im thinking anodised parts, but I havent really put too much thought into colour and trim just yet

    Oh no not the mantra! haha that bike is pretty much the exact opposite of every one of my design intentions! I can see the relation with the hood, and I had totally different ideas in my mind when I was doing those sketches. I've moved in a different direction now though, but ill post that later.

    Interesting relation to Britten, I'll take that as a compliment! haha. I certainly appreciate the similarities in themes with concept two.
    Thanks for the feed back! Ill keep you posted!


    Will do cheers!

    Thankyou, hope to bring something new to the page!

    Thanks very much!

    Thanks for the feedback, I'll definitely pick u the latest copy and check out that article. Sounds interesting. What field of ID do you work in? Are you a Monash grad by any chance?

    Not for this project, Unfortunately I just don't have the funding or manpower to make this possible. The model will appear as though it is a fully functioning, ridable motorcycle, but like a lot of concept show cars it will in fact be just a fibreglass model with alot of authentic parts to complete the illusion.

    The purpose of the model is to demonstrate the visual impact and proportions of the design to the audience, rather than the actual functionality of the bike. No Transport model has ever been required to be functional.

    I'm budgeting around $6000 for this model, as well as thousands of hours since a lot of tit will be hand made. In previous years some people have spent between $2000 and up to $20,000 for 3D printed or CNC'd models (and these are only 600-700mm in length)

    It really depends on what your resources are, time, money, contacts etc