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2011 Victorian Motorcycle Fatalities, analysis/trends

Discussion in 'Research, Studies, and Data' at netrider.net.au started by robsalvv, Jan 10, 2011.

  1. Along the lines of the same thread last year, continuing the observation of motorcycle related fatalities in Victoria with a view to drawing learnings from available data.

    Rider down rules apply.




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    Sunday, 09 January 2011 04:32

    A 21-year-old man from Aireys Inlet has become death number four on Victoria's roads in 2011. The fatality occurred on the Great Ocean Road in Anglesea about 3am this morning. It appears the man has lost control of his motorcycle. Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding the man's death and a report will be prepared for the Coroner.
    Provisional Road Toll
    2011 - 4
    2010 - 7
    Melissa Heagney
    Media Officer
    VP8260/2011


    GEELONG ADVERTISER:
    Biker, 21, dies in Anglesea crash
    Carl Dickens | January 9th, 2011

    A 21-YEAR-OLD man died after losing control of his motorbike on the Great Ocean Road early yesterday.

    The Aireys Inlet man was riding east towards Anglesea on the road when he lost control, veered left and slammed into an embankment 1km southwest of O'Donohue Rd about 2.30am, police said.

    The impact threw the man off his motorbike and into a sign post. A passer-by who saw the man's bike lying on the shoulder of the road about half an hour later stopped to help and called emergency services. The man was already dead when paramedics arrived, Ambulance Victoria spokesman John Mullen said.

    Torquay police Sergeant Brian McKiterick said there was no street lighting at the site of the crash, and no indication of any other vehicles being involved.

    Police closed the Great Ocean Road in both directions for a short time after 3.30am as they investigated and cleared the scene.

    Police will continue their investigation and prepare a report for the coroner. Nine people have died on Victorian roads during the Christmas road toll period, the second highest of any state in Australia, Superintendent Neville Taylor said.

    "While nine is the lowest Christmas road toll recorded in Victoria, it is hard to think of that figure as anything other than nine too many," he said. "It is a particularly difficult time to lose someone and police, our road safety partners and the community need to continue to jointly target the issues of speed, alcohol, distraction and fatigue."

    The Victorian 2011 road toll stands at four, compared to seven at the same time last year.




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    As reported on VicPolice News
    Motorbike rider dies in collision at Ashwood
    Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:00

    Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding a collision at Ashwood which has claimed the life of a man and seriously injured another. Just after 7pm a BMW travelling south on Huntingdale Road attempted to turn west onto Electra Avenue and has collided with two motorbikes travelling north on Huntingdale Road. One motorbike rider, a man in his thirties, died at the scene.

    The rider of the other motorbike, a man in his forties, was transported to The Alfred with serious injuries. The driver of the BMW, a man in his thirties, and his female passenger in her thirties, were taken to the Box Hill Hospital suffering shock. Police are investigating whether speed may have been a contributing factor. Huntingdale Road will be blocked until at least 9.30pm.
    ...

    Provisional Road Toll
    2011 - 11
    2010 - 14

    April Hosking
    Media Officer
    VP8501/2011


    Herald:
    Motorcyclist dies, another seriously hurt
    From: AAP January 19, 2011 9:58PM

    A MOTORCYCLIST has died and another motorbike rider has been seriously injured after they crashed into a car in Melbourne's southeast. Victoria Police said a BMW travelling south on Huntingdale Road, Ashwood, tried to turn when it collided with two motorbikes travelling north on Huntingdale Road. One motorbike rider, a man in his thirties, died at the scene. The rider of the other motorbike, a man in his forties, was taken to The Alfred hospital with serious injuries. The BMW driver and his female passenger were taken to Box Hill hospital suffering shock.

    Police are investigating whether speed was a factor...


    From TheAge: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/motorbike-embedded-in-side-of-car-20110120-19wzg.html
    Motorbike 'embedded in side of car'
    Thomas Hunter
    January 20, 2011 - 8:17AM

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    Frantic attempts by witnesses to resuscitate one of two motorcyclists struck by a car in Melbourne's east last night failed to save the man's life, police say. The two bikers were riding north on Huntingdale Road at Ashwood about 7pm when a BMW driver travelling south tried to turn into Electra Avenue and collided with the pair.

    Intensive care paramedic David Lees said the impact of the crash left "one of the bikes embedded into the passenger side of the car".

    "One of the motorcyclists wasn't breathing and didn't have a pulse and bystanders were doing CPR," said Mr Lees. "We took over CPR and used a mask with a bag attached to increase the oxygen the man was receiving. "He was also given some drugs in an attempt to stimulate a normal heart rhythm. Unfortunately the man, in his 30s, couldn't be revived."

    Ambulance Victoria said the rider of the other motorbike, a man in his 40s, was transported to The Alfred with serious injuries. The BMW driver, a man in his thirties, and his female passenger were taken to the Box Hill Hospital suffering shock. Police were investigating of speed contributed to the crash.




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    Fatal motorcycle collision in Bell Park
    Friday, 28 January 2011 09:45

    Police are investigating a motorcycle fatality in Bell Park this morning. It appears the motorcyclist travelling east on Separation Street lost control after using evasive action to avoid a truck turning right from Kildare Street just before 6am.

    The 47-year-old motorcyclist struck a pole at the intersection and died at the scene. A 43-year-old truck driver is currently assisting police with their enquiries.

    Police will investigate if speed was a contributing factor in the circumstances surrounding the Waurn Ponds man’s death.

    A report will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Separation Street was closed to traffic between Thompsons Road and Douro Street for about three hours following the collision.
    Provisional Road Toll
    2011 - 15
    2010 – 19
    Leading Senior Constable Kendra Jackson
    Media Officer
    VP8687/2011


    Being reported identically in the Geelong Advertiser and the HUN, nothing in the Age.
    http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/01/28/239395_news.html

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...tting-power-pole/story-e6frf7jx-1225995969326




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    As reported by VicPolNews
    Motorcyclist dies after collision - Wye River
    Sunday, 06 February 2011 17:02

    A 38-year-old motorcyclist has become the latest road toll statistic following a collision on the Great Ocean Road near Wye River this afternoon.

    Police are investigating the circumstances of the collision between the motorcycle and a Ford Falcon sedan which happened just after 3pm. The motorcyclist, a man from Melton, died at the scene.

    A report will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Police are appealing for anyone who witnessed the collision to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or www.crimestoppers.com.au
    Provisional Road Toll
    2011 - 24
    2010 - 32
    Melissa Heagney
    Media Officer
    VP8978/2011


    http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/02/06/241031_news.html
    Biker dies in head-on
    Carl Dickens | February 6th, 2011

    A MOTORCYCLIST died after his bike collided with a car on the Great Ocean Road yesterday afternoon. Police said the 38-year-old man from Melton West was travelling east on the road near Wye River when he veered onto the wrong side of the road and collided with an oncoming Ford Falcon sedan just after 3pm. The man died at the scene.

    Colac Highway Patrol Sergeant Shane Howard said there was no indication of speed being a factor in the crash.

    He said it was already the second fatal accident on the Great Ocean Road involving a motorcyclist this year, and implored all motorists to be wary and pay more attention. "It is (concerning), we also had a number of them on the road last year," he said.

    "Our appeal is for cars, as well as motorcyclists, to take care. It's a road you need to concentrate on, particularly if you're not familiar with it."

    Police closed a stretch of the Great Ocean Road for several hours as they investigated the crash, diverting traffic at Skenes Creek via the Forrest-Apollo Bay Rd.

    A report on the man's death will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Six people have already died on Geelong and Surf Coast roads this year, compared to nine for the whole of 2010.

    The state's road toll stands at 24, compared to 32 this time last year.


    (Edit: Other papers aren't displaying any further detail)




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    As reported on Vicpol news.

    Fatal collision in Musk
    Monday, 14 February 2011 19:29

    A motorcyclist has become the 27th person to die on Victoria’s roads following a collision in Musk in the state's west this afternoon.

    Police believe the motorcycle rider, travelling west on the Daylesford Trentham Road, veered onto the wrong side of the road and collided with an oncoming truck about 2.30pm. He died at the scene.

    The 44-year-old truck driver from Bendigo was not injured and has assisted police with their enquiries. Police will prepare a report for the Coroner.

    Provisional Road Toll
    2011 – 27
    2010 – 37



    As reported on http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/death-in-headon-crash/2075830.aspx

    Death in head-on crash
    15 Feb, 2011 12:01 AM

    A MAN died after a head-on collision between a motorcycle and a truck on the Daylesford-Trentham Road at Musk yesterday. The motorcyclist was travelling towards Daylesford when he collided with the truck on a sweeping bend at about 2.30pm.

    Moorabool Highway Patrol Senior Constable Darren Wyka said the rider swerved into the other side of the road in the 80km/h zone.

    “The rider veered across double lines and collided with the truck,” he said. It is not yet determined what caused the rider to veer into oncoming traffic but alcohol and drugs are not believed to be involved.

    Ambulance Victoria spokeswoman Gabrielle Degenhardt said the man was declared dead at the scene. “He was deceased when paramedics arrived,” she said. Paramedics attempted unsuccessfully to revive the man.

    Ms Degenhardt said two paramedic units and a local general practitioner attended the crash. Senior Constable Wyka said the truck driver was lucky to escape serious injury.

    The collision caused the truck to lose steering and the driver narrowly avoided a number of trees on the side of the road. The truck came to rest about 80 metres from the collision. “I don’t know how he didn’t flip the truck,” he said.

    The 44-year-old truck driver from Bendigo was not injured and has assisted police with their enquiries.

    The motorcyclist was the 27th person to die on Victoria’s roads this year. Police will prepare a report for the Coroner. The name of the deceased man is yet to be released



    {Major are reporting the incident as per Vicpol news}



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    Motorcyclist dies - Waranga Shores
    Sunday, 20 February 2011 20:28

    A 54-year-old Shepparton man has become the 31st death on Victorian roads following a single motorcycle collision tonight. Police were called to the scene of the collision on the Rushworth-Tatura Road, Waranga Shores, near Shepparton about 6.20pm.

    It's believed the man lost control of his motorcycle.

    Police will investigate the circumstances behind the collision and a report will be prepared for the Coroner. Police are appealing for anyone who may have witnessed the collision to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or www.crimestoppers.com.au

    Provisional Road Toll

    2011 - 31
    2010 - 44


    Map location: http://goo.gl/maps/9icf


    Major news outlets at this stage are reporting it exactly per police report. There's a snippit in the log paper:


    http://www.sheppnews.com.au/members/...spx?id=1202529

    Motorcyclist killed

    A 54-year-old Kialla man was killed in a motorcycle crash on the Tatura-Rushworth Rd at Harston last night.

    Police at the scene said the man was thrown from his Harley Davidson motorcycle near the corner of Springvale Rd and Tatura-Rushworth Rd.

    The man was travelling east on Tatura-Rushworth Rd at the time.

    Kyabram police Acting Sergeant Brett Sampson said there were no other vehicles involved and a man who was following in a ute behind the motorcycle stopped to assist.

    ??There was someone following him and saw him riding and actually didn?t see the accident,??... {accessible story ends}


    Here's a link to the mentioned location: http://goo.gl/maps/1NKL



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    Motorcyclist dies in Cobungra
    Friday, 25 February 2011 22:09

    Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding a fatal collision on the Great Alpine Road in Cobungra, west of Omeo just before 7pm.
    The motorcyclist, a 48-year-old man from Shepparton died at the scene.
    It's believed the rider failed to negotiate a bend and has left the road, hitting an embankment.
    Police are investigating the cause of the collision and will prepare a report for the coroner.

    Provisional Road Toll
    2011 - 35
    2010 - 47
    Belinda Batty
    Media Officer
    VP9501/2011



    http://sale.yourguide.com.au/news/local/news/general/devon-north-fatal/2089778.aspx
    ...POLICE are investigating the circumstances surrounding a fatal collision on the Great Alpine Road in Cobungra, west of Omeo on Friday evening about 7pm.The motorcyclist, a 48-year-old man from Shepparton died at the scene. Police believe the rider failed to negotiate a bend and has left the road, hitting an embankment. Police are investigating the cause of the collision and will prepare a report for the coroner...




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    Fatal - Wallan
    Saturday, 05 March 2011 10:16

    A man has died following a crash on Epping Kilmore Road near Wallan this morning continuing a horror time on Victorian roads.

    His death becomes the fifth fatal collision since yesterday morning.
    Police were called to the scene at about 9.30am, 2 kilometres north of Wallan Whittlesea Road.

    It appears the motorcycle has left the road and hit a tree. The 66-year-old male rider from Seymour died at the scene.

    Police are investigating the exact circumstances and will report will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Provisional road toll:
    2011 - 43
    2010 - 54
    Belinda Batty
    Media Officer
    VP9670/2011



    http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Nat...yo_motorcyclist_hits_tee_and_dies_585175.html
    66yo motorcyclist hits tee and dies
    Saturday, March 05, 2011 » 01:44pm

    A 66-year-old motorcyclist has become the fifth person to die on Victoria's roads since Friday morning.The male rider died after hitting a tree on Epping Kilmore Road near Wallan, north of Melbourne about 9.30am (AEDT).

    The man, from nearby Seymour, died at the scene. Police are investigating the exact circumstances.

    Earlier, police confirmed that a man who died in a head-on collision...


    http://shepparton.iprime.com.au/index.php/news/prime-news/motorcyclist-killed-in-crash-near-wallan
    Motorcyclist killed in crash near Wallan 05/03/2011 | 10:43 AM

    A man has died after a motorcycle crash near Wallan. Police were called to the scene on the Epping-Kilmore Road at 9.30am on Saturday. "It appears the motorcycle has left the road and hit a tree," Victoria Police said in a statement.

    The rider, a 66-year-old Seymour man, died at the scene.

    Police say this is the fifth fatal accident since Friday morning and continues a "horror time on Victorian roads".


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    Fatal - Healesville
    Sunday, 06 March 2011 13:23

    A man has died following a crash on Myers Creek Road in Healesville this afternoon continuing a horror time on Victorian roads.

    His death marks the seventh fatal collision since Friday morning.
    Police were called to the scene just after midday.

    It appears the motorcyclist was travelling on the wrong side of the road when he struck a vehicle travelling in the opposite direction.

    The 64-year-old male rider from Glen Iris died at the scene.

    The occupants of the Toyota 4WD, a family of four, were not injured.

    Police are investigating the exact circumstances and a report will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Provisional road toll:
    2011 - 45
    2010 - 54
    Belinda Batty
    Media Officer
    VP9691/2011


    Nothing different being reported in any other media source.


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    As reported on the policenews.

    Fatal collision in Surrey Hills
    Monday, 07 March 2011 23:32

    A woman has become the fourth motorcyclist to die on Victoria’s roads in the last three days following a collision in Surrey Hills tonight. Investigators believe a 4WD making a right turn from Canterbury Road into Union Road collided with the motorcycle travelling east on Canterbury Road about 8.20pm.

    The 43-year-old East Ringwood woman died at the scene. A 42-year-old Rye man was taken by road ambulance to the Alfred hospital with serious injuries.

    Major Collision Investigation Unit investigators continue to investigate if the woman was the rider or pillion passenger at the time of the collision.

    The 55-year-old driver and sole occupant of the 4WD was not injured in the collision.

    The East Malvern man is currently assisting police with their enquiries.
    Canterbury Road remains blocked between Warrigal Road and Union Road.
    Police will prepare a report for the Coroner.

    Investigators are appealing to anyone who may have witnessed the collision or the Vespa travelling on Canterbury Road prior to the collision to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit: www.crimestoppers.com.au.

    Provisional road toll:
    2011 - 46
    2010 - 55
    Leading Senior Constable Kendra Jackson
    Media Officer
    VP9720/2011



    Map location: >click here<



    As reported in the age: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/w...killed-in-past-three-days-20110308-1blgr.html
    Woman becomes fourth motorcyclist killed in past three days
    Megan Levy March 8, 2011 - 6:57AM

    A 43-year-old woman killed in a crash in Melbourne's east last night was the fourth motorcyclist to die on Victoria's roads in the past three days. The East Ringwood woman was riding east on Canterbury Road in Surrey Hills when her Vespa scooter and a 4WD collided at the intersection with Union Road about 8.20pm.

    Paramedic Bryanna Scrase said he arrived to find a woman in cardiac arrest. She was unable to be resiscitated and died at the scene.
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    A 42-year-old man from Rye, who was also on the Vespa at the time of the crash, was knocked off the bike and was unconscious when paramedics arrived.

    He suffered suspected internal injuries and a deep cut to his knee, and was taken to The Alfred hospital.

    ''We put a drip in his arm and gave him pain relief and fluids to help stabilise his condition,'' Ms Scrase said.

    ''His condition significantly improved on the way to hospital and he was conscious and talking when we arrived.''

    Police are yet to determine whether the woman was the rider or pillion passenger.

    A Victoria Police spokesman said the 55-year-old driver of the 4WD was not injured, and was assisting police from the Major Collision Investigation Unit.

    Police believe the 4WD was making a right turn from Canterbury Road into Union Road when the crash occurred.

    They have appealed for anyone who saw the the crash, or the Vespa travelling on Canterbury Road beforehand, to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit www.crimestoppers.com.au


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    Vic Pol News
    Fatal at Ringwood
    Tuesday, 15 March 2011 11:08

    A man has died following a crash on the Ringwood bypass this morning.
    Police believe a motorcyclist lost control while travelling north on a sweeping bend of the Ringwood bypass on-ramp to Eastlink, hitting a guard rail just before 9am.

    The man aged in his 40s died at the scene.

    Police are investigating the exact circumstances of the crash and a report will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Provisional road toll:
    2011 - 50
    2010 - 62



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    Trail bike fatality at Rosebud
    Friday, 18 March 2011 19:12

    A trail bike rider has died following a collision at Rosebud earlier this evening.

    Police have been told that at 5.40pm a Toyota utility was being driven along Morgan Street approaching the roundabout at Murray Anderson Road.

    As the utility travelled around the roundabout a trail bike came out of Murray Anderson Road travelling at a fast rate of speed. The rider of the bike, who was not wearing a helmet, collided with the utility in the roundabout.

    The rider, a 33-year-old Rosebud man died at the scene. The driver of the Toyota was not injured.

    Police are investigating the exact circumstances and a report will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Provisional road toll:
    2011 - 55
    2010 - 64
    Creina O'Grady
    Media Officer
    VP9670/2011


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    Fatal at Strath Creek
    Saturday, 19 March 2011 13:38

    A man has died following a head on collision at Strath Creek just after midday.

    Police believe the motorcyclist lost control and veered onto the wrong side of the road while travelling west on Broadford-Flowerdale Road, before crashing head on with a car about 12.10pm.

    The motorcyclist, aged in his fifties, died at the scene. The driver of the silver Ford sedan, aged 44-years-old, has been transported to the Northern Hospital at Epping with minor injuries. The man from Broadford was sole occupant of the vehicle

    Police are investigating the exact circumstances of the crash and a report will be prepared for the Coroner.

    Provisional road toll:
    2011 - 58
    2010 - 64
    April Hosking
    Media Officer
    VP10033/2011


    (-->By way of interest, the motorist is reported to be the Labor backbencher for McEwan.)


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  2. Hitting any thing solid will kill you, at any speed above a crawl,
    A spot of oil on the road will make you drop your bike,
    A small piece of gravel on the road will make you slide out,
    And you dont have to be speeding, You can be well under the limits for these accidents to occur,
    You can be totally alert, totally focused on what your doing, and still drop your bike,

    I was riding along St Kilda road years ago, raining, straight line, cruising, not fast, not braking or accelerating, Next thing I am sliding down the road on my backside with my wife at the time in my lap.

    Why, I dont know to this day, It must have been a patch of oil on the road,

    Was I speeding, NO.
    Was I doing any thing wrong, NO,
    Was it mechanically faulty, NO,

    But the bike did drop out from under us,

    Some thing that the cops, car drivers and the law makers dont realize,
    you can drop your bike for no reason at all.
     
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  3. I work with the Cousin of the rider.
    More info I have been told.
    He wasn't wearing a helmet, and had been out at a party all night, the guy I work with susspects that Booze was involved. He doesn't know any more than this.
     
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  4. Reading Deadmans post clearly can show how some drops are clearly accidents.
    But this post can make you understand why authorities say in most cases they're not really accidents and could/should have been avoided...

    :(
     
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  5. it may turn out to be true, but how can they make that statement this early in the investigation?
     
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  6. Thx Floppy. My own internal speculation said that the circumstances certainly fitted a country young gun riding home after a local party/night out. There were a couple of deaths along the same lines last year. This is definitely a very regretful and avoidable fatality - one that the road safety machinery could beat up into something large.


    Deadman, the only way a bike can fall "for no reason" is to lose traction. And the classic example is a bike in a low gear but highish revs - so therefore making good power - which is usually being contained by the rear tyre's traction... but suddenly the rear goes over a patch of oil uncontaining that power and bamm! the bike loses traction. The amount of oil needs to be significant... I have my own loss of traction story linked in my sig... but the circumstances were very clear.
     
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  7. The other vehicle ran a bit wide causing the bike to veer off the road,
    The other vehicle going round a bend, not even aware that the rider has fallen off caused by the car running wide.
    Hence no other vehicle involved, and it does happen, Then the rider is at fault,
     
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  8. It may have been an aquaplane, I said I was cruising, no revs No ups or downs,
    The bike dropped out from under us,
    I have been riding for 47 years,
    It happens, not often but it does,
    You can bring all the reasons you like in here, But it was my arse sitting on the road, not yours.
     
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  9. Sigh. You lost traction somehow. Cruising at what speed, what revs and on what bike mate?

    Bikes don't fall over for no apparent reason when moving forward at speed... unless of course you're the advertising director of Vicroads/TAC and have access to aliens.
     
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  10. 40 years ago, and I am still wondering how, Like you say, bikes dont drop for no reason,
    30 mph 1968 650 Triumph Bonnieville,
    I also rode speedway solo for 3 years before this, and i can ride,
    Its just one of those things, end of story,
     
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  11. Decently torquey bike on c1970 tyres and a c1970 road surface traversed by vehicles with c1970 oil leaks.

    I think traction loss due to oil is at least on the radar :D.
     
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  12. Motorbike rider dies in collision at Ashwood
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    Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:00

    Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding a collision at Ashwood which has claimed the life of a man and seriously injured another.

    Just after 7pm a BMW travelling south on Huntingdale Road attempted to turn west onto Electra Avenue and has collided with two motorbikes travelling north on Huntingdale Road.

    One motorbike rider, a man in his thirties, died at the scene.

    The rider of the other motorbike, a man in his forties, was transported to The Alfred with serious injuries.

    The driver of the BMW, a man in his thirties, and his female passenger in her thirties, were taken to the Box Hill Hospital suffering shock.

    Police are investigating whether speed may have been a contributing factor.

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    Ok so is everything going the riders fault from now on. From what it sounds like the driver failed to give-away.
     
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  13. How about they investigate whether being a useless ****wit was a factor? How anyone can miss TWO bikes and clean both up at once is really beyond me..
     
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  14. Yep got that one floppy.

    It doesn't say the motorcycles or the car were speeding. This unfortunate incident is a good reminder to motorcyclists about the dangers of turning cars. Here's the location on google maps: http://goo.gl/maps/Bjjl Based on the reports, car turned right off a main road into a suburban street. Very typical thing to do. The motorcycles and car collided. Unless the police or papers follow up or we get 3rd hand reports, we'll never know whether the bikes tboned the car, or the cars tboned the bikes. Either way, there's a strong SMIDSY.

    Learning for riders - on coming car on the right, upcoming suburban ride on the left... cover brakes, change road position, don't assume car is going straight.




    The speed point isn't as obvious as you think.

    Not that long ago, a mate of mine was on a country ride, heading North to Warrigal, following his mate. Farmer brown was heading south and had cars behind him. It was a a100km/h road. Farmer Brown had clear vision of the bikes but due to the cars behind him, had an eye on the mirror and slowed just enough to be able to do a fast swing right into his driveway in order to avoid holding up the cars behind... right into the path of the bikes. The leading bike ebraked, tail in the air, couldn't stop and collided. Nasty. My mate ebraked and avoided colliding by a couple of metres. All happened at or below the speed limit. The driver however had an inappropriate speed for the manouvre.


    Both incidence serve to remind riders to never assume you'll be seen.
     
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  15. Unfortunately not hard to do. But I share the frustration.

    Bikes have a small profile that doesn't change much when oncoming - until the last moment, that's why it's important to have strategies in place to break your headlight out of the background, e.g. weave around, change tyre tracks, flash... and also anticipate the driver not seeing you e.g., cover brakes, slow down, emergency exit route.
     
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  16. I guess it just frustrates me when the media make it sound like the bikes fault and nobody stands up to say anything different.
     
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  17. why don't they write "police are investigating why the driver of the car didn't give way", at the very least it will serve to educate those reading the story. while I'm at it, why don't TAC et al instead of trying scare tactics and bullshit ads have ads that show typical accidents (they can include shock factor here if they want) and educate the viewers as to what the mistake was that caused it, this is the way to reduce accidents - reduce accidents, not speed!! sigh. like pissing into the wind, I hope one day we have an organisation that can represent us motorcyclists properly and get this stuff done...
     
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  18. Mark, I've been looking relatively closely at this institutionalised road safety behemoth lately... we are talking seriously entrenched, deeply ingrained, heavily institutionalised philosophy and ideology of a reasonably static rusted on bureaucracy in the road safety area, Australia wide. And each state has pissing contests about it. And the speed kills mantra has them all by the balls, despite the data showing that it's no longer the low hanging fruit that it once was, so the only direction is to lower the speed limits.

    The truth is that if a mistake or poor decision is made at speed, it's the kinetic energy involved that will damage and maim. It's easier to slow people down than it is to improve people's competence which would avoid many poor decisions. It wont remove all mistakes though.


    I'm gonna do my bit about it by submitting something to the draft national road strategy review. You could do your bit by submitting a comment too: http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/safety/national_road_safety_strategy/index.aspx

    You don't even have to read the strategy. Training is effectively overlooked. The focus is on speed and safer roads. Dumbing down drivers, giving them the message that they're safe so long as they're below the speed limit has reduced their competence. This has made the roads more dangerous for vulnerable road users. The strategy's answer to this is to slow people down further. There's enough ammo in that and your own sharp mind to make a meaningful comment on the strategy. You have till Feb 11th.
     
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  19. Oil or diesel on the wet road, My Bonnie did not leak oil, This is the only drop I ever had that I dont have a definate reason for, I still cannot explain it,

    All the rest, Stupidity, speed, gravel on road, oil, diesel, wet white line, tram tracks, car turning and didnt see me, Foot peg digging in and lifting the wheels off the ground, Hahahahaha, car stopping and no where to go,
    I can say with out doubt what happened,

    Like I said, I was putting along, constant speed, dropped from under us,?????
     
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  20. In a herald sun article after ken lay was moved sideways and the new traffic commissioner was appointed they did state that speed would be their main emphasis this year to try and "change driving habits".
     
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